Wikipedia: Average IQ Map of the World. (EDIT: Damn you Fark!, apparently it's the average IQ of the native inhabitants)

[Malak]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Because intelligence is too complex, too multifaceted, too dynamic to simply come up with a number or even a series of numbers that describe it. Numbers = concrete quantities; intelligence = abstract concept.

I'm certain intelligence is much less abstract than we would love to believe it is.

You have to use an abstract test in order to guage intelligence. That's why you'll often see pattern tests in IQ tests. They require zero education so they are universal. However, most of these tests are timed. Even if you can figure out a pattern, they don't care if you don't do it quickly. Albert Einstein would likely fail these tests because he was a slow thinker.

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Australia got owned.
:laugh:

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: aswedc
This post is not necessarily related to the exact map posted, but this subject and people who are blinded by politically correct crap annoy me...

It is common knowledge that certain races score much lower on average on the IQ test.

It's obvious that different races have different traits - obvious differences in physical features, average size, even athletic performance. Why is it unreasonable to think that they might have different levels of intelligence?

For those that think every race has equal intelligence, what evidence do you have to support your theory other than it is the politically correct way to think? I have the IQ test to support my theory, as well as average performance in school and on other standardized tests. Sure, none of those measurements are close to perfect, but any evidence is better than no evidence!

'Politically correct?' More like using 20th & 21st Century instead of 18th & 19th Century science.

Somehow I doubt you're familiar with Wright's concept of adaptive landscapes... Explain to me what socioecological pressures are present for some 'races' & not others? Why not define 'race' & 'intelligence' while you're at it?

Pull up your pants, your ignorance is showing.

 

[ultimatebob]

Looks like that map pissed someone off... It's tagged for deletion.

 

[yowolabi]

I'm sure that if you took the children of the indigenous people of any country in the world and raised them in America as Americans, they would perform the same as the average Americans.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Stumps
Dug...I believe the results are stuffed up because of Victoria....the Stupid State...not the Garden State....and possible Queensland, they suck too.

There is no way that Australia has an average IQ of 60...that is legally retarded.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Stumps
Dug...I believe the results are stuffed up because of Victoria....the Stupid State...not the Garden State....and possible Queensland, they suck too.

There is no way that Australia has an average IQ of 60...that is legally retarded.

Reading comprehension, FTL...

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Amused
Again folks:


The map is only supposed to represent the average IQ of the indigenous populations. Not the populations living there now.

This means the Australia score represents ONLY Aboriginals. The North America score represents ONLY Native Americans, and the European score represents ONLY caucations... etc.


Dug, you REALLY need to edit your post to refect what the map is actually supposed to represent. That doesn't mean you agree with it, but because of your own confusion you are misrepresenting what the map is supposed to mean.

Apologies folks, i found the map from a link in fark that was simply headed 'world iq map' as i recall, no mention of race.


I have to admit, i have my doubts that Australian Aborigines are on average, legally retarded

That's a pretty big claim to make. More like, their lack of schooling in 'conventional' subject matter makes a IQ test that comes from a 'conventional' western background rather biased against them?

 

[0roo0roo]

if you have this months scientific american theres an article on this. seems the controversy continues.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID...ID=16CE0F78-E7F2-99DF-378FF7FF45DB5EED
no full article on the web as far as i can tell. its not settled and there is evidence for the supporters.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: aswedc
This post is not necessarily related to the exact map posted, but this subject and people who are blinded by politically correct crap annoy me...

It is common knowledge that certain races score much lower on average on the IQ test.

It's obvious that different races have different traits - obvious differences in physical features, average size, even athletic performance. Why is it unreasonable to think that they might have different levels of intelligence?

For those that think every race has equal intelligence, what evidence do you have to support your theory other than it is the politically correct way to think? I have the IQ test to support my theory, as well as average performance in school and on other standardized tests. Sure, none of those measurements are close to perfect, but any evidence is better than no evidence!

'Politically correct?' More like using 20th & 21st Century instead of 18th & 19th Century science.

Somehow I doubt you're familiar with Wright's concept of adaptive landscapes... Explain to me what socioecological pressures are present for some 'races' & not others? Why not define 'race' & 'intelligence' while you're at it?

Pull up your pants, your ignorance is showing.

Actually you are wrong. All scientific evidence agrees with him, while only opinions and theories agree with you. The same groups that score lower on IQ tests also score lower on their SATs, do worse in school, make less money, and commit for crime. Oh, and that's not just in the US, but around the world.

 

[Auryg]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: aswedc
This post is not necessarily related to the exact map posted, but this subject and people who are blinded by politically correct crap annoy me...

It is common knowledge that certain races score much lower on average on the IQ test.

It's obvious that different races have different traits - obvious differences in physical features, average size, even athletic performance. Why is it unreasonable to think that they might have different levels of intelligence?

For those that think every race has equal intelligence, what evidence do you have to support your theory other than it is the politically correct way to think? I have the IQ test to support my theory, as well as average performance in school and on other standardized tests. Sure, none of those measurements are close to perfect, but any evidence is better than no evidence!

'Politically correct?' More like using 20th & 21st Century instead of 18th & 19th Century science.

Somehow I doubt you're familiar with Wright's concept of adaptive landscapes... Explain to me what socioecological pressures are present for some 'races' & not others? Why not define 'race' & 'intelligence' while you're at it?

Pull up your pants, your ignorance is showing.

Actually you are wrong. All scientific evidence agrees with him, while only opinions and theories agree with you. The same groups that score lower on IQ tests also score lower on their SATs, do worse in school, make less money, and commit for crime. Oh, and that's not just in the US, but around the world.

Yeah, don't argue with science (even relative science) just because it's not politically correct.

Oh no, the different races evolved differently! Quick, everyone, bury your head in the sand.

It makes sense. The people up north would evolve to be smarter, as living in the cold needs that. The people in the warmer sections of the world would evolve in different ways.

 

[Oxaqata]

One of the smartest people I know is half aboriginal...

 

[Kilgor]

I don't think it's really racist just biased to one type of education. If you would give an IQ test on Bushcraft and living in the wild the map would favor the native inhabitants. I don't think one race is any dumber than the other they just know different things.