Wikipedia: Average IQ Map of the World. (EDIT: Damn you Fark!, apparently it's the average IQ of the native inhabitants)

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Balt

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: Balt

For example, the values for Australia are for Indigenous Australians, not the immigrants of European ancestry that now make up the majority of the Australian population.

Not that I'm vouching for the accuracy of it or anything.

A) That's pointless

B) That's racist

C) i highly doubt that is true

Statistics are not racist if they are true. On the other hand, if the test is culturally biased, (which many people claim it is) all that those statistics would prove is that certain people of one culture don't perform as well on that particular test as members of other cultures do.

I never said they were, but was rather referring to this specific case...

In this case, using a culturally biased test (and i'd be interested to see where that data was obtained) on a race that makes up an extremely small proportion of a country's population seems utterly farking pointless to me Bit like only taking the results for Native Americans for the US, and so on & so forth for every other country...

LOL at you guys arguing over the map as if it was actually based on a real IQ test. :laugh:

 

[0roo0roo]

its from this guy apparently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn#Race_differences_in_intelligence

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: dug777
In this case, using a culturally biased test (and i'd be interested to see where that data was obtained) on a race that makes up an extremely small proportion of a country's population seems utterly farking pointless to me

If they included the rest of the population (like you), it would only drag the average down even further.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: dug777
In this case, using a culturally biased test (and i'd be interested to see where that data was obtained) on a race that makes up an extremely small proportion of a country's population seems utterly farking pointless to me

If they included the rest of the population (like you), it would only drag the average down even further.

:heart:

 

[91TTZ]

I think the data has some fact to it, even if there are some flaws.

 

[animalia]

IQ is not synonomous with intelligence. there are many types of intelligence, and IQ proves only one, maybe 2.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
I think the data has some fact to it, even if there are some flaws.

His own data gives Australia a 98

 

[AbAbber2k]

If they weren't so racist and made the test based on wrestlin' crocs and the size of the knife in your belt the Aussies wouldn't have done so bad. Paul Hogan alone would have pushed the average up to at least 150. "That's not a knife... THIS is a knife."

 

[Mucho]

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[loup garou]

LOL OSTRALIANZ R DUM!

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: animalia
IQ is not synonomous with intelligence. there are many types of intelligence, and IQ proves only one, maybe 2.

What is the best overall measure?

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: animalia
IQ is not synonomous with intelligence. there are many types of intelligence, and IQ proves only one, maybe 2.

What is the best overall measure?

There isn't one. Reification.

Anyone who thinks there's any validity to these tests should read this book.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: animalia
IQ is not synonomous with intelligence. there are many types of intelligence, and IQ proves only one, maybe 2.

What is the best overall measure?

There isn't one. Reification.

Anyone who thinks there's any validity to these tests should read this book.

Why wouldn't there be?

Clearly, we can distinguish differences in intelligence at the extremes. Why is that much more complicated at the margins?

 

[50cent1228]

lol

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: animalia
IQ is not synonomous with intelligence. there are many types of intelligence, and IQ proves only one, maybe 2.

What is the best overall measure?

There isn't one. Reification.

Anyone who thinks there's any validity to these tests should read this book.

Why wouldn't there be?

Clearly, we can distinguish differences in intelligence at the extremes. Why is that much more complicated at the margins?

Because intelligence is too complex, too multifaceted, too dynamic to simply come up with a number or even a series of numbers that describe it. Numbers = concrete quantities; intelligence = abstract concept.

 

[alzan]

Completely inaccurate map; there should be a deep red zone around Washington, DC.

 

[aswedc]

This post is not necessarily related to the exact map posted, but this subject and people who are blinded by politically correct crap annoy me...

It is common knowledge that certain races score much lower on average on the IQ test.

It's obvious that different races have different traits - obvious differences in physical features, average size, even athletic performance. Why is it unreasonable to think that they might have different levels of intelligence?

For those that think every race has equal intelligence, what evidence do you have to support your theory other than it is the politically correct way to think? I have the IQ test to support my theory, as well as average performance in school and on other standardized tests. Sure, none of those measurements are close to perfect, but any evidence is better than no evidence!

 

[Malak]

FYI, IQ tests are always innaccurate and worthless. Your ability to score high on this test is entirely based on your environment. Having an average IQ of 60 for your country doesn't even mean anything, you could all be the smartest people on the earth and still score bad on these tests. Hell half this forum got confused on some 2nd grader's math homework.

 

[Amused]

I think it's funny that the vast majority of people who have replied do not seem to understand that this is only supposed to represent the average IQ of the indigenous populations. Not the populations living there now.

Whether the map and it's claims are right or wrong (it's definately not PC), it's still funny that the majority here are misreading it and not understanding what it means. Most of all the OP.

Yo Dug, you shoulda read the article it was attached to before posting.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: animalia
IQ is not synonomous with intelligence. there are many types of intelligence, and IQ proves only one, maybe 2.

What is the best overall measure?

There isn't one. Reification.

Anyone who thinks there's any validity to these tests should read this book.

Why wouldn't there be?

Clearly, we can distinguish differences in intelligence at the extremes. Why is that much more complicated at the margins?

Because intelligence is too complex, too multifaceted, too dynamic to simply come up with a number or even a series of numbers that describe it. Numbers = concrete quantities; intelligence = abstract concept.

I'm certain intelligence is much less abstract than we would love to believe it is.

 

[aidanjm]

the fact Australians keep electing Howard indicates we must be, as a nation, rather stupid.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
the fact Australians keep electing Howard indicates we must be, as a nation, rather stupid.

I resent that. :|

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Hmm... Do ya suppose that map was published by a Chinese outfit? :laugh:

No kidding. While I agree that the Aussies may be smart as a box-o-rocks,
/me pokes a little dig at Dug...
saying China is the smartest country in the world seems a bit...ludicrous...especially when compared to most of the Chinese immigrants I've been exposed to in the SF bay area...not that I'm implying that all are dumb by any means, but I certainly haven't seen a huge percentage to be of above average IQ...why many of them don't even speak good english...(check your sarcasm meter before flaming)

 

[Amused]

Again folks:


The map is only supposed to represent the average IQ of the indigenous populations. Not the populations living there now.

This means the Australia score represents ONLY Aboriginals. The North America score represents ONLY Native Americans, and the European score represents ONLY caucations... etc.


Dug, you REALLY need to edit your post to refect what the map is actually supposed to represent. That doesn't mean you agree with it, but because of your own confusion you are misrepresenting what the map is supposed to mean.

 

[dethman]

haha white people are stupid.