Wikileaks and Clinton emails

[Londo_Jowo]

Wonder what will be in these emails Assange is stating he will release?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...y_clinton_emails_are_pending_publication.html

Julian Assange, founder of Wikileaks, said on Sunday that the journalist organisation is planning to release upcoming leaks in relation to US presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton.

 

[Artdeco]

Evidently, there's some history between Hillary's state Dept and Assange, this should be interesting.

 

[Starbuck1975]

This could be the first Presidential election significantly influenced by cyber warfare.

 

[Guurn]

It'll just make this election more ridiculous. I'm looking forward to it and hope it happens soon.

 

[jackstar7]

She's got one strike in my book. Curious to see if she can't foul off any of these, or if she winds up grabbin' some pine.

 

[werepossum]

She's got one strike in my book. Curious to see if she can't foul off any of these, or if she winds up grabbin' some pine.

Three strikes in my book. Just her good luck that the opposing team this game can't count to three.

 

[HTFOff]

Three strikes in my book. Just her good luck that the opposing team this game can't count to three.

jhng42h/ Oh look, more innuendo and projection from the right-hadists. /jhn4tgv

 

[jackstar7]

Three strikes in my book. Just her good luck that the opposing team this game can't count to three.

They can only count to one: America First! (and don't ask us where that slogan comes from!)

 

[compuwiz1]

Hopefully they will be the clean ones, not the redacted ones, so we can see what the hell was really going on. The state department releasing heavily redacted emails, unfortunately, probably doesn't shed a whole lot of light toward truth.

 

[theeedude]

Who cares? Seriously, her opponent is Donald Trump.

 

[Jaskalas]

Hopefully they will be the clean ones, not the redacted ones, so we can see what the hell was really going on. The state department releasing heavily redacted emails, unfortunately, probably doesn't shed a whole lot of light toward truth.

They had to redact the emails... but they weren't classified and it wasn't criminal to remove them from secured systems... right...

 

[Jhhnn]

Hopefully they will be the clean ones, not the redacted ones, so we can see what the hell was really going on. The state department releasing heavily redacted emails, unfortunately, probably doesn't shed a whole lot of light toward truth.

After all the right wing raving about compromised national security, super sekrit information on a private server & blah, blah, blah you want the un-redacted versions revealed to the world.

Only in the Rightwing-o-sphere can such conflicting ideas make any sense at all. Cuz you can't trust Hillary, obviously.

 

[Jhhnn]

They had to redact the emails... but they weren't classified and it wasn't criminal to remove them from secured systems... right...

Classified after the fact & apparently none were improperly transferred from secured systems.

You already knew that. Or you should if your brain is functioning properly.

 

[Guurn]

You know classified after the fact isn't a thing, right?

 

[werepossum]

jhng42h/ Oh look, more innuendo and projection from the right-hadists. /jhn4tgv

lol +1

They can only count to one: America First! (and don't ask us where that slogan comes from!)

Hey, I LIKE that slogan.

I just don't believe they mean anything in particular by it.

Who cares? Seriously, her opponent is Donald Trump.

And Donald Trump's opponent is Hillary Clinton. But keep spinning that turd, you're bound to find the clean end soon.

Serious question: Why would we trust wikileaks? The Hildabeast wiped her server, so even if wikileaks claims to have files someone hacked from her system, we can't verify it. There are some leaks such as the Blumenthal leaks (which proved without any doubt that she both edited and deleted official business emails) which have some provenance, but by and large her correspondence is gone. What will wikileaks have? Her emails were never on the government system - that was the whole point, the ability to edit, delete, and hide her work to best promote and protect herself and her Presidential viability. Now, we all know that wikileaks intercepted many of the Clinton system messages which were sent to people within the government system. But beyond those that we can verify, that doesn't necessarily mean that what wikileaks presents is necessarily the unvarnished truth.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Rumor has it that the Russians hacked her server and are giving the documents to Wikileaks. I repeat, this is a rumor.

 

[Jhhnn]

You know classified after the fact isn't a thing, right?

I know you're out of your mind if you think it isn't. It's entirely possible for the SoS to receive entirely new outside information in a variety of ways that later becomes classified for the purposes of public release. It's also possible for them to unknowingly receive leaked "classified information" (not documents) originating from an entirely different arm of the govt.

None of that is actually "classified" until the security pinheads say it is & the SoS gets to see it first.

Whatever server it might reside upon is immaterial to that.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Hildabeast wiped her server, so even if wikileaks claims to have files someone hacked from her system, we can't verify it.

Incorrect. The server & the data were turned over to the FBI in complete form.

 

[werepossum]

Incorrect. The server & the data were turned over to the FBI in complete form.

lol Of course they were. Which is why State has been laboriously attempting to identify emails from Hillary's system to other people. See, this is why I am convinced you are code; no one human being could possibly hold that much stupid.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Incorrect. The server & the data were turned over to the FBI in complete form.

Unbelievable! Folks...it doesn't get anymore brain dead than this!

 

[Jhhnn]

lol Of course they were. Which is why State has been laboriously attempting to identify emails from Hillary's system to other people. See, this is why I am convinced you are code; no one human being could possibly hold that much stupid.

Deleted does not mean wiped. If the server had been wiped then no recovery would have been possible.
Once information is deleted then the system can over write the disk where the deleted material resided. Any tech savvy person knows both of those assertions are true.

Those of us who use email routinely delete information as we go along, of course, so any recovery will be incomplete. Such emails may exist on other devices which is what State is now doing, trying to provide as full a record as possible.

The assertion that the server was wiped is demonstrably false.

 

[Jaskalas]

Classified after the fact & apparently none were improperly transferred from secured systems.

Their existence on her server by itself denotes improperly transferred from secured systems.
That they may be in the hands of the Russians and the rest of the world also, clearly, demonstrates the crimes committed by Hillary and staff.

 

[waggy]

Deleted does not mean wiped. If the server had been wiped then no recovery would have been possible.
Once information is deleted then the system can over write the disk where the deleted material resided. Any tech savvy person knows both of those assertions are true.

Those of us who use email routinely delete information as we go along, of course, so any recovery will be incomplete. Such emails may exist on other devices which is what State is now doing, trying to provide as full a record as possible.

The assertion that the server was wiped is demonstrably false.

OMG..

 

[Jhhnn]

Their existence on her server by itself denotes improperly transferred from secured systems.
That they may be in the hands of the Russians and the rest of the world also, clearly, demonstrates the crimes committed by Hillary and staff.

That does not indicate that the SoS was responsible for it happening or had any reason to handle it any way other than what was done. It does not mean that the same thing wouldn't have happened with State dept servers, either. Or should the SoS have the security pinheads read their email before they do?

That it may be in the hands of any unauthorized persons merely demonstrates the fundamental insecurity of any & all internet connected devices. There is no evidence to support the notion that Hillary's server was exceptionally vulnerable or that it was ever hacked.

We'll see what Assange has in due course. The way he put it shouldn't get anybody's hopes up for any sort of great revelations. Quite the contrary.

 

[Jhhnn]

OMG..

Like this-

https://whereismydata.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/deleting-and-wiping-data/

My explanation was rudimentary yet accurate- a helluva lot more accurate than the assertion that the drives were wiped. They obviously were not if recovery was possible.

I know, I'm questioning an article of faith but faith isn't necessarily truth at all.