"Wii isn't designed to work with high-end HDTVs" says Nintendo Sr. Tech Support

UNCjigga

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OK, so I bought a Wii last Spring and I love it--no I don't play it all the time but whenever I've got friends over we hook up Madden '08, Wii Sports and MarioParty. Good times. Well fastforward to a few weeks ago, when I notice that while playing Bowling and Tennis there are a few graphical glitches showing on the screen. The glitches look like vertical dotted lines, and the dots are "sparkling" between green and pink colors. Its a minor annoyance, and I figure maybe one of the cables is loose or there's some noise.

Last week I noticed that the issue got worse. There are more lines, and the effect is similar to what one might see if one overclock's their graphics card past its' limit. I adjusted the cables, and it didn't help. I tried changing resolution from 480p to 480i (using the component cables on a Sammy LCD TV) and turning widescreen on or off, but nothing helped. Then I switched out to the standard composite cables. No help. I tried a different game, Zelda, and noticed that it was a LOT WORSE. Around this time I suspected something was wrong with my console--like the graphics processor/scanline converter on the board had gone bad. But before jumping to conclusions, I tried it on another TV. My 32" Westinghouse LCD. Again I tried both sets of cables, but nothing helped.

So today I call up Nintendo Tech Support. I'm impressed when I get to a tech within 30 seconds of making the call. I describe the problem, he asks me if I've tried different cables, different input, different TV etc. and I tell him yes, yes, yes. Within another 45 seconds he escalates me to a Senior Tech. Again, I'm impressed. But this is when things go wrong.

As I'm describing my issue to the tech, she asks "are both of your televisions HDTV?". "Yes", I answer. She then tells me "well the Wii wasn't really designed to work with high-end HDTVs." I say nothing, but a vein in my head starts to protrude. She continues, "these new TVs are designed to draw things very fast, and the Wii can't keep up, so that's why on these TVs you'll see these issues." Now that vein is big-shit-poppin, but I remain calm and kindly tell her "you can't be serious". Now she tells me she's reading off a technical bulletin, and the bulletin says that post-processing on the TV and various picture quality settings might cause what I'm seeing. So I explain that this is definitely NOT an issue with my TVs, and if it were I would've noticed it MONTHS AGO.

She won't budge, and her final resolution is for me to take my console to a friend's house and try it on another TV. At this point I'm livid, and I'm trying to explain things in technical terms but obviously I'm speaking a different language. So now I'm supposed to take it to a friend's house and test it? How the fvck does that help ME? Am I supposed to "downgrade" my TVs so I can play the Wii?

The best part though--the last thing she said to me was "Please understand we don't want to waste your time. If you send it back to use we'll need to use it for evaluation and you won't be able to play your Wii for some time. And if we take it back and find nothing wrong with it, it's just a waste of time".

Thanks for the tip Nintendo Customer Service.

UPDATED: Now with screenshots

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BrianH1

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Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
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:laugh:

Originally posted by: BrianH1
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
~Buddha

So realistically he should just let it out on the nearest person, to avoid getting burned?
 

loup garou

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First rule of dealing with customer service:
Call back until you get a rep that tells you what you want.

...pick up the phone.
 

Kaido

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Originally posted by: loup garou
First rule of dealing with customer service:
Call back until you get a rep that tells you what you want.

...pick up the phone.

:thumbsup:

Also remember you're dealing with a corporation...they care about their bottom line, not your happiness. Those guys in the call center are getting paid minimum wage to answer calls that they don't care about and that the company doesn't care about. I've seen this kind of frustration at Apple before as well...the companies advertise customer care but don't always or necessarily practice it.

I feel for you :(
 

Vortex22

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Sounds like overheating. I've seen this problem reported before. By any chance, do you have wiiconnect24 turn on but haven't updated your console?
The CSR just sounded like she was a little confused. I've seen this exact same thing happen to one of my old Radeon cards when the HSF seperated from the chip and caused it to overheat. It doesn't sound like an HDTV issue at all. I would bet that you see the same thing if you tried with a normal TV. The "wii not designed for HDTV" line sounds like mostly BS, there is nothing I'm aware of that would cause graphical anomalies like the ones described for that reason.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: Vortex22
Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Screenshots for your enjoyment:

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It's overheating.
I'm not sure...this is as soon as I turn it on and launch the game. Both fans appear to be working (the one on the bottom/side edge and the one on the back) and aren't blocked by anything I can see. I think its some kind of permanent damage.

 

Yzzim

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I saw little artifacts like that when I was playing Zelda. Don't think it was quite that bad, but I could definitely see them. That was with a Madcatz component cable hooked up to a Panasonic 42" plasma. Sometimes I could see them in Wii Sports as well.
 
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the display used is irrelevant. using composite, s-video or component cables, data is flowing in only one direction - out of the wii and into the screen. there's an excellent chance the wii wouldn't know if anything is plugged in or not.