WiFi needs to go 1 mile, without "clear" L.O.S ?

[polm]

I would like to WiFi point-to-point with a buddy of mine who live about 1 mile away.

We area at about the same elevation, but there are many trees and builidngs between us.

What kind of wireless solutions are available to us ?

 

[SpunkyJones]

A mile! I can't get a strong signal into my basement LOL.

 

[saxophonoia]

That's asking a lot.

 

[ryandmiller]

You can do it with a strong enough antenna. You could just purchase a consumer grade access point and then connect a strong antenna to it. I don't know what the trees would do to it. Trees with needles are bad for wireless signals. Just do a google search and you should find plenty of people willing to sell you antennas. I think an antenna with over 20 dbi should do it. You will also need to buy the appropriate cable and connectors.

 

[Mellman]

yeah for a mile with buildings AND tree's, your gonna need at least a 20 db antanna, your neighbors/parents wont mind having a giant antanna on your roof?

 

[polm]

Originally posted by: Mellman
yeah for a mile with buildings AND tree's, your gonna need at least a 20 db antanna, your neighbors/parents wont mind having a giant antanna on your roof?

if I could put it on the roof, and avoid the L.O.S. problems, I could probably get away with a 12dbi gain.

since both our apartments are managed by individual real estate owners (not commercial, or corporate, etc.) , and in-fact I am related to my property owner, we DO NOT plan on attaching any device to our roof.

We both live on the second floor of our buildings, and each have a blacony that will offer the only suitable location to mount the antennas.

So....20dbi gain, you think will cut through the buildings and trees ?

 

[ScottMac]

There is no way you will do this with wireless and not have a clear line of sight.

Trees & water absorb and dissipate frequencies in this band, solid obstructions are a complete barrier.

Your best chance, if any, is to find a common flat, solid object and bounce a signal to/from a pair of high-gain directional antennas.

That's it.

Good Luck

Scott

 

[polm]

Originally posted by: ScottMac
There is no way you will do this with wireless and not have a clear line of sight.

Trees & water absorb and dissipate frequencies in this band, solid obstructions are a complete barrier.

Your best chance, if any, is to find a common flat, solid object and bounce a signal to/from a pair of high-gain directional antennas.

That's it.

Good Luck

Scott

whoa...you kinda lost me.

Basically we need to find a common object we each have L.O.S to ?

 

[ktwebb]

What Scott is suggesting is to find a reflector for the signal. In theory it can work and even in practice on VERY RARE occasions. Water tower or something like that. The more dependable solution would be to find a mutual LOS point, and put a parent bridge there. It would need no wired connectivity except for power. Omni or wide angle panel refectors (depends on your remote locations) and yagis or some other directional at each child site. I would pin much, read any, hopes on using a passive refector. Never say never I guess but without line of sight at one mile, here is what you have to do. Multipoint bridging WITH line of sight to the parent from the remote locations.

So....20dbi gain, you think will cut through the buildings and trees ?

No, and there's no "thinking" about it. Won't work.

 

[whalen]

You will not be able to do it with 2.4GHz. Using a 900MHz solution, you should be able to achieve the liink, but 900MHz products are quite a bit more expensive.

 

[Dowfen]

I think what he was saying is that you could in essence buy 4 bridge units or whatever, 2 to relay the signal from some other appartment/location as an intermediary. We do this from a remote location to go over a freeway, but with no trees.

To be honest though, it sounds like unless you want to spend a lot of money, it's not going to happen. There's no way to do it reliably with the consumer grade junk you'll find at the retail stores.

Eric

 

[JackMDS]

There are solutions for such situation but they entail big expenses, licenses etc. You can rent spaces and put relays, and or other solutions of similar nature.

However what it is that you need to do that can not be Done with a fast secure Internet connection?

:brokenheart:

 

[Falloutboy]

don't even bother I had a hardtime going 1/2mile with LOS with a pair of cantennas I got it finally but it was only 2mbps so I could of done a VPN and have simlar performance.