WiFi and Ethernet giving me an unusual issue

Magnus Blade

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Hello,

Lately for the past several months, we've been having issues with connectivity, yet it's a tad different than the average "frequent disconnection" problem. And when I explain it, it kind of seems hard to believe. But trust me, it happens and this is just weird.

Now, generally our internet is mostly stable. But when disconnections/drops occur, they are normally sort of "half-dropped". The WiFi would go down, but the the internet access via Ethernet would still work. That's normal... except for when vice versa occurs; The WiFi would still be going, but access for Ethernet just outright die. But that's not even the weird part.

You see, as time passed with these inconveniences, I noticed a REALLY strange pattern in the disconnections. Between 4-5 PM, that's when the drop would occur. It's ALWAYS during that time of the day whenever it decides to act up. Note that this doesn't happen everyday. It's just at complete random. At first, I thought it was a matter of the network being busy during this time of the day. But that wasn't the case, as I was at home alone one day; everything normally connected to the internet was shut off and my lone PC was the only one using it. I wasn't doing anything particularly bandwidth-hoggy either. And like I said, this doesn't happen every day. Probably about once or twice every week or two.

Even stranger, when it drops, it's down for good; for the rest of the evening/night. But when we wake up in the morning, whatever dropped (WiFi or Ethernet) will be miraculously up and running again... And if it doesn't cut on the next day, it'll be off for the entirety of that day and most certainly be back on the following day.

We've called our ISP several times, and when they said they've "fixed" the problem, it'd just happen again and again. First, they said that the signal wasn't traveling through the house enough, so the tech boosted the connection. But I knew that wasn't the case because that doesn't explain why the Ethernet drops, since that's "directly" connecting to the Router/Modem. We've called more after this, but they gave us the same story and just boosted the connection each time (gg, U-Verse).

The last time (recently), they told us our firmware was outdated (which it was, actually), and we then updated it. That seemed like it fixed the problem since we went several weeks without disconnections. But the problem... came back.

I switched channels, I moved literally "everything" away from the Router/Modem, reset it countless amounts of times, yet nothing.

I just find it weird that the connection is doing this and our ISP can't do a thing about it. They claim the router/modem is still in working condition and nothing is physically wrong with it. If it were a case of having too many devices connected, that couldn't be it because that was actually one of the first things we did; not having much of anything connected, and saw no results.

This isn't just my PC that suffers from this. This connectivity affects all computers and devices alike, so I don't think it's any problem our devices are having, since they all suffer from this issue one way or another.

Any help or insight will be appreciated. For the information you may need, this is one of those router/modem combos the ISP (U-Verse) gave to us, and we've gone through at least three routers throughout the years we've been with them. It's a Motorola NVG510 (doesn't seem to have a good reputation from the look of things...), and the firmware is still up-to-date.

Thanks for taking the time to read this and help, if possible.
 

VirtualLarry

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This is a DSL-type arrangement? VDSL or ADSL2+ or something?

To me, it sounds like your modem/router/gateway needs to be straight-up replaced with a new one, or a newer model (if they have one).

That would give you some A/B comparisons. It doesn't make much sense that the Wifi, or the ethernet, would simply cut out for the day, but not both.

Edit: Another possibility, is the power adapter isn't supplying enough power for all of the gateway's features. How old is it?

Another thought was, how big is your DHCP pool? If you don't have enough local IPs available, only the first so many devices will be able to connect. I would set it to 50, or so.
 
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Magnus Blade

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Yep. It's DSL.

I believe this router in particular is around... 2-3 years old? It may be age, because they've given us this same router for years when others of it's kind went defective. I'm surprised this Motorola lasted this long. We called tech support again this morning, since the Ethernet now has been down for almost three days straight, but the WiFi is okay (with occasional drops that only last a few seconds to a few minutes). Support tells us that the signals are all showing up fine and that it's likely something wrong on our end without even telling us what we could do about solving our issue...

As for the DHCP pool size, I sadly don't know how to check this (or know much about it in general). Is there somewhere in my router's settings that I can see information on the DHCP?
 

XavierMace

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DHCP pool being full wouldn't cause drops during the middle of the day, nor would it magically fix itself overnight.
 

Magnus Blade

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DHCP pool being full wouldn't cause drops during the middle of the day, nor would it magically fix itself overnight.

Well, I'm not making this issue up. It's happening, and it does do that. I have no idea why it drops and pick back up the next day like that.
 

jardows

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Out of the box thinking here, but I've been seeing it a lot at my support job. Do you have satellite TV service? Lots of the Satellite services are using a DHCP server that conflicts with normal network/internet activity.

Also, check the IP address on your Ethernet connections, if it is good, try pinging your router. That will tell a lot of what's going on.