WIFI and cell internet- Is it dangerous?

Red Squirrel

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It's all about watts A couple watts is not going to hurt you. 1,000 watts will. (microwaves operate at about 1,500). Frequency plays a role too. The higher it is, the more dangerous it is. When you go past UV then it's very dangerous as it's ionizing. But even non ionizing can be dangerous at high enough power, it will burn you, mostly.

If you notice, cops rarely use a walkie talkie style CB radio. The actual radio unit is on their belt, and they have a handheld. One of the reasons for this is so the transmitter is not so close to their head. It's also so the antenna is straight so it keeps proper polarization. you're probably not going to have issues using transmitters close to you here and there but someone like a cop that's doing it every day will want to take precautions. Same with ham radio operators, you don't really want to be transmitting at 50 odd watts with the antenna on your desk practically in your face but you'll be fine if it's outside mounted on a mast.
 

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Note it's on the side he holds his phone. Don't let this happen to you...
 

Red Squirrel

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I heard someone actually pronounce it weefee once. lol. Person thought it was some kind of menu item and inquired about it because there was a sign that said "wifi now available" at a restaurant. Not the brightest bulb in the pack.
 

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I think that the cops use the speaker/mic. on their shirt to keep their hands free.
 

OverVolt

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I actually think it is dangerous but it doesn't stop me from using it.

My opinion is that the warming sensation and often times accompanying headache you get from holding the phone close to your ear is causing brain inflammation and inflammation can lead to cancer with repeated and prolonged exposure.

The mechanism of action for the brain inflammation would be simple heating, the brain is EXTREMELY sensitive to changes in temperature and isn't meant to receive any form of radiative heat. You get a gnarly headache from a small fever and talking on a cellphone for a long time is no different.

The limit appears to be around 1 hour of holding the phone to your ear. So I can see people who don't use bluetooth or speaker phone who use a cellphone 2hrs+ daily being at risk. IE Realtors.
 

MrSquished

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I always hold the phone to my right ear and lately I've just been able to walk in circles sometimes....circles to the right.
 

Imp

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I actually think it is dangerous but it doesn't stop me from using it.

Same... I don't think it's like standing next to a nuclear reactor, but I don't think it's 100% safe. But I will keep using it, just with some "safety measures" like not keeping my phone in my pocket all day, using speakerphone, turning off Wifi if I'm do offline stuff, and not sleeping with it next to my pillow.
 

Amused

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No. There is absolutely no valid evidence to suggest exposure to low power radio waves is in any way harmful to you. Sure, you can attend Google U and find lots of confirmation bias, but the science on this is clear and has a firm consensus. Fear of wifi and mobile radio signals is as hysterical and baseless as the anti-vax movement and flat earthers.
 

OverVolt

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No.

You are blasted with more radiation on a sunny day.

Frequency plays the only role. And the answer is no.
Ah, its not like that though. Everything in biology is so nuanced. The proteins in the brain are indeed extremely sensitive to temperature. I feel like most research is simply going off the assumption that since its non-ionizing radiation that its completely harmless, I get where they are coming from, it doesn't do DNA damage.

The brain is really the only tissue that gets inflamed when slightly heated. And inflammation will trigger a cascade of issues that can cause DNA damage chemically instead.
 
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uclaLabrat

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Ah, its not like that though. Everything in biology is so nuanced. The proteins in the brain are indeed extremely sensitive to temperature. I feel like most research is simply going off the assumption that since its non-ionizing radiation that its completely harmless, I get where they are coming from, it doesn't do DNA damage.

The brain is really the only tissue that gets inflamed when slightly heated. And inflammation will trigger a cascade of issues that can cause DNA damage chemically instead.
The energy going through your brain isn't heating it up by so much as half a degree I would speculate, and your body has plenty of mechanisms for dealing with any heat that may be generated through circulation of the blood. And as others have mentioned, you're already getting a continuous bombardment of radio waves through your body anyway.

Edit: also, radio waves are significantly lower energy than IR waves, so I don't know if any heat would be generated by various parts of the spectrum. Microwaves would be enough but I don't know where they relate in the overall broadcast spectrum.