wife wants a seperation

joecool

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i've been married for almost 13 years. in my opinion and recollection there have been a lot of good times. however, for the last few years things haven't been so great. i've got issues and have also been diagnosed as bi-polar. my wife has her own issues and hasn't always been so nice. we have had couples therapy and individual therapy. i'm on meds for the bipolar. i think i am getting better, if slowly, but she seems to have checked out. she keeps saying she has nothing left to give. now she has decided we need a seperation. i think if i move out, it's all over. she'll be happy to be rid of me and won't have any incentive to let me back in, and try to pull things back together. if i do move out and move back in, every time something goes wrong, she'll pull out the "it was better when you were gone" card, and eventually decide i need to move out again, permenantly. to complicate matters, we have two grade-school age boys, and i fear that if i move out i will loose the relationship i have with them. finally, i feel it is very unfair that i should be asked/expected to move out a home that is 50% me - my stuff, my work, my money. it seems to me that guys really get shafted here - they have to leave, while the wife gets the house, the stuff, the kids, and the money. why will the kids want to hang with me, in a dump, when they can be in their home, with their stuff? it seems to me if she really wants a seperation, she should be the one to leave. bottom line tho is, i think this will inevitably lead to divorce if i agree to it, and i really wish i could get her to see another path, and keep working on things. i guess there's no point here, except that i'm in about as bad a place as i've ever been, and sadly this is about the only place i have to vent/share/whatever.

cliffs:
- married ~12.5 years
- many good times, but lately more bad than good
- wife wants me to move out, temporarily
- i think if i move out, it's all over
- if i move out, i'm f***ed - loose my home, my kids, my money, etc
- btw, guys are screwed when it comes to seperation/divorce - we have to leave everything behind, including kids, but keep shoveling $ to the ex to support their good life.

UPDATE:
Well, I basically told her I wasn't leaving, and told her I'd do anything to make it work. Things have been going better for a few weeks now. It's not much, but it's a start. Heres hoping we can make it work. Thanks for all the empathy and advice (even you, Geekgirl!).
 

child of wonder

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Sorry to hear that, man.

I think you're right. If she thinks she needs to get away from you tell her she is welcome to move out. She's the one that wants to separate, not you.
 

EMPshockwave82

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:beer


Get advice from someone with credentials though... please take any internet advice with caution (including this one)


I'm sorry.
 

Dr. Detroit

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You knew the consequences when you got married. Til death do us part is a big joke!

Sorry to inform you but in the legal arena you are fvcked. You will lose your kids, house and have to pay alimony & child support. 50% of your 401K also will be liquidated.

You can be a weekend Dad and live in an apartment. Enjoy your new found freedom.


 

edro

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Don't move out. It is your house too. If she wants to separate, have her go through the legal system.
If you really want to pull this back together, you need to do some major ass kissing.

Or... set her up for drug use and take video, then give it to the judge.
 

LeiZaK

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Originally posted by: child of wonder
Sorry to hear that, man.

I think you're right. If she thinks she needs to get away from you tell her she is welcome to move out. She's the one that wants to separate, not you.

Seconded
 

NFS4

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I think that if SHE is the one that wants out, she should be the one putting up $$$ and SHE should be the one movin' her ass out.
 

Sid59

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remember, get a GOOD lawyer. A good lawyer will save you money in the long run even though the cost seems step to retain a lawyer.

Good Luck and condolences.
 

joecool

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Originally posted by: Fmr12B
You knew the consequences when you got married. Til death do us part is a big joke!

Sorry to inform you but in the legal arena you are fvcked. You will lose your kids, house and have to pay alimony & child support. 50% of your 401K also will be liquidated.

You can be a weekend Dad and live in an apartment. Enjoy your new found freedom.

yeah, she says she keeps thinking about the "in sickness and in health" part ... but i guess she's decided she didn't really mean it.

and you hit the nail on the head - i've got no interest in being an every-other-weekend dad. that's just wrong. kids, boys particularly, need dads as much as moms. when the f*** did men become superfluous?
 

JasonSix78

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Originally posted by: EMPshockwave82
:beer


Get advice from someone with credentials though... please take any internet advice with caution (including this one)


I'm sorry.

This is probably the best advice you'll get on this forum. You might try searching for another forum with a larger percentage of mature folks or talking to someone else who has wisdom in this area like a local Pastor. I hope everything turns out for the best.

-Jason

 

MidasKnight

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Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that if SHE is the one that wants out, she should be the one putting up $$$ and SHE should be the one movin' her ass out.

Agreed.

 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: NFS4
I think that if SHE is the one that wants out, she should be the one putting up $$$ and SHE should be the one movin' her ass out.
i have to agree, but it won't work that way. :(

sorry to hear about your situation joe. marriage is "for better, for worse, and in sickness and in health" right? or don't they add that to the vows anymore?

don't leave? tell her if she wants out she can get out.
 

SparkyJJO

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If she wants out, she should go and not take the house/money/kids from you. Why should you get shafted?

I think though that you should both seek some counseling. Divorce isn't a good thing really, and is hard on the kids.
 

lytalbayre

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If you go to court for a divorce, you can probably work out a deal if she keeps the house where alimony will be reduced/removed and child support will be reduced. I second a good lawyer, it'll pay off eventually. Does your wife have a job currently? You could always liquidate all your shared assets and split the money, but then the kids will suffer more...

No matter what, always try to be a good father!! Pay your child support and visit your kids!
 

Phokus

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sorry to hear that man, if you're ever in the area, i'll grab you a beer dude... :(

 

alien42

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sorry man, especially since there are young kids in the situation. chances are the solution will not be beneficial to all parties.
 

clamum

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Sorry to hear that. :(

Is it possible to fight this, or get a lawyer? I wouldn't go down without a fight.
 

Metron

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Sorry to hear that man... I was married for over 10 years, and I have been divorced for more than 6 years now.

I would suggest you speak to a qualified family law attorney soon (and I wouldn't mention this fact to your wife). Initial consultations are normally free.

You are correct that our culture is highly slanted toward the woman in the relationship getting primary custody of the children (along generous child support ). If you end up with this type of settlement, expect:
- to lose 1/2 of your 401(k) or pension to her
- to give her the family home (though a good lawyer can bargain for 1/2 of the equity)
- to only see your children every other weekend, and possibly one evening during the week
- to pay her roughly 25% of your income in child support (varies by state)
- to pay the taxes on that 25% (you don't get to write it off... it's tax free income to her)


However, more and more settlements are being established with "shared" custody, where the children alternate weeks between the parents. No child support changes hands, since the burden of raising the children is shared equally. Something to investigate...

Go talk to a Family Law lawyer ASAP.

*edit* adjusted child support percentage to reflect more than one child
PS... I am not a lawyer, just somebody who's walked this path.
 

DaShen

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try to work it out and get counseling. :(

Marriage is a commitment. I can already tell from your post that you have a selfish way of thinking about the situation. You aren't thinking about trying to save the marriage or what you can do to be a better husband; you are thinking more about what you will lose if you move out. This is faulty thinking. Get counseling and really try to save your marriage. Good luck to you.
 

AmerDoux

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Sometime in this past year another poster was going thru divorce proceedings and he posted that his lawyer told him not to move out of the house. It is looked upon as you voluntarily leaving the marriage, or something like that. Dont leave and go get a good lawyer!
 

NFS4

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Not to pry, but is she gettin' any action on the side? Would that be beneficial at all to you in a divorce? Or does the guy automatically get screwed?
 

Koing

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Sorry to hear that :(

It should be that she moves out if she wants a a seperation but it si hardly ever like that...

Try and make it work if you want her and the marriage. If not f0ck it and quit while your ahead.

Good luck and chin up.