Wich is best Overclocker

[bigguyottawa]

AMD 64 3000+ or 3200+ i know it's the law of the luck but so far what are your result and ur sugestion..

 

[Killmenow]

Hmmmm, I had a 3200+ Winchester (it did 2.4Ghz w 1.5V and ~2.5 w 1.58 24h prime stable) and just bought another 3200+ recently (week 16 venice). I dont really know which one overclocks better (the 3000+ or teh 3200+), but from my experience.....the 10X multiplier on the 3200+ came in handy. This link might help answer your question. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62353
Personally, if budget is not a real big concern, i would just go with the 3200+. Oh, and assuming u live in Ottawa, Ontario and want to buy locally .........good luck finding a non-week 18+ processor. I was lucky enough to find a week 16 from the pccyber in bell's corner. Haha, was their last 3200+ too. ShopRbc and crawford microsystems both have week 18's+. You might want to check some other stores like Fedacom or something where A64's dont sell as fast. Hope that helps.

 

[clarkey01]

3200+, 10x multiplier.

 

[n7]

The 3000+ is the best OCer, since with a good mobo, it will hit the same speeds as the 3200+.

If you have a questionable mobo, then the 3200+ is the safer bet.

 

[Zebo]

10x found inside has more flexibility.. they OC the same though.

hard to beat a 3000 for $120 shipped from ewiz. other than mobile XP's or tbreads nothing in history is such a bang for the buck. FX-55 performance, or more, for $120!!

 

[Leper Messiah]

if your mobo can do 300HTT (Epox, DFI, ULi, the new ATi) then there is no reason to bother with the 10x multi. If you want to run 1:1 for some unknown reason, the 10x is helpful for that.

 

[Zebo]

I can think of lots of reasons.

Like 2550Mhz = 283 HTT what are your memory options?

a) 200 meaning expensive TCCD to run 1:1
b) 166 meaning expensive ram that can run 234Mhz
c) 133 meaning way underclocked @ 183Mhz mem

Vs a 3200 can run 10x

2550Mhz = 255 HTT

a) 200 meaning expensive TCCD/Ballistix/UTT to run 1:1
b) 166 which is 210 Mhz and all memory can run, even cheap budget PC3200 ram. <<<BEST CHOICE

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I can think of lots of reasons.

Like 2550Mhz = 283 HTT what are your memory options?

a) 200 meaning expensive TCCD to run 1:1
b) 166 meaning expensive ram that can run 234Mhz
c) 133 meaning way underclocked @ 183Mhz mem

Vs a 3200 can run 10x

2550Mhz = 255 HTT

a) 200 meaning expensive TCCD/Ballistix/UTT to run 1:1
b) 166 which is 210 Mhz and all memory can run, even cheap budget PC3200 ram. <<<BEST CHOICE

Expensive ram? LOL. My $90/GB PQI can do 240 3-3-3-81T at 2.8vdimm. Maybe I'm just special though 😉

 

[Zebo]

True🙂 But you still have to be careful about High HTT with all boards... you get a 2800Mhz chip and difficulties can arrise.. not that I recommend 3200, at all, it's just a little more flexible.

 

[Leper Messiah]

The 10x can hurt, thats certainly true. Is it worth $30? IDK.

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: L3p3rM355i4h
The 10x can hurt, thats certainly true. Is it worth $30? IDK.

Depends how badly your after the desired speed..I wouldnt say yes, but then again Im not for cutting corners when it comes to the best 🙂

 

[Leper Messiah]

So, did you sell your left kidney, or your right for that system?

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Zebo
10x found inside has more flexibility.. they OC the same though.

hard to beat a 3000 for $120 shipped from ewiz. other than mobile XP's or tbreads nothing in history is such a bang for the buck. FX-55 performance, or more, for $120!!

LOL, and I'm the one who switched recently from a mobile Xp to a 3000 venice, both are OC'd of course. I'm all about the bang for the buck...

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Zebo
True🙂 But you still have to be careful about High HTT with all boards... you get a 2800Mhz chip and difficulties can arrise.. not that I recommend 3200, at all, it's just a little more flexible.

2800mhz and issues do arrive..

With 1.55 I could most likely push 2900mhz, but my Neo 2 doesn't like my HTT over 314.. Which is REALLY high to begin with..

 

[SGtheArtist]

I believe the best bang for the buck would be the Venice 3000+. I say this because a 90u mfg core is a 90u core.

The high speed processor you purchase decreases (the potential) bang for the buck.

You can go to overclockers.com and checkout their database on these two processors & the overclocks people achieve with them. I did this a while back and determined that the average stock HSF overclock for the 3000+ was about the same as the 3200+ (2.5GHz).

As people have mentioned though the 10x multiplier does decrease the HTT(FSB) requirements to hit the average overclocks. This could mean you save money on a motherboard.

You might want to checkout the MSI K8N Neo4-F.