Why you shouldn't race into a burning house to save a pet.

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Marshallj

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How about this, we'll drop it since there's no progress being made here, and if there's ever a fire I'll save most of the people, except McBaine. Since I already know that he'd never do the same for me, I'll have no guilt watching as he dies.
 

Marshallj

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Call me what you want, I can help a lot more people alive than you can dead.

Yeah, and as we all know, a guy who stands outside and does nothing is doing a hell of a lot to help. I'll die trying while you'll live watching.

Great character, bravo.
 

Marshallj

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I don't blame you for coming onto the Internet and being a smart alec. You've already revealed that you're a coward in real life, Internet forums probably give you a good release... a chance to be heard, a chance to be noticed.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: MacBaine
Call me what you want, I can help a lot more people alive than you can dead.

Yeah, and as we all know, a guy who stands outside and does nothing is doing a hell of a lot to help. I'll die trying while you'll live watching.

Great character, bravo.

So you'll die trying, having accomplished nothing, and I'll live. Sensible people like me realize that there are some times when there is nothing you can do to help. If everybody else is as brave as you, why haven't we heard of more heros like you? Oh yeah, they all died trying.

The point is this. I value my life more than yours. I would not trade places with a complete stranger destined to die. Why would I? So my family can know I died a hero? You need to get over your ego problem and realize that being a hero doesn't mean committing suicide.
 

Marshallj

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Bahhh, I'm done with this thread.


If you reply to me, I'm listening, honest... you matter to me.
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MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
I don't blame you for coming onto the Internet and being a smart alec. You've already revealed that you're a coward in real life, Internet forums probably give you a good release... a chance to be heard, a chance to be noticed.

Yeah, and you've obviously revealed that you are a hero. I'm still waiting for a list of all the people you've pulled out of burning buildings. Just fax it to me when you get a chance.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
Bahhh, I'm done with this thread.


If you reply to me, I'm listening, honest... you matter to me.
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So you wouldn't save my life because of your personal feelings towards me? But you would save a complete stranger?

Sounds to me like you are putting personal value on life.

DING DING DING!

Tell him what he's won!
 

Mrburns2007

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I didn't realize there were so many morons out there.....I wonder how many are Americans, risking your life to save a pet is pretty much an American thing.
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: MacBaine
Originally posted by: rbloedow
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Torghn
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007 My friend is a city fightfighter and he has already seen three people get killed trying to rescue there pets from fires. It's stupid and irresponsible and when your dead your wife and kids are going to miss you more then the pets.
Well then i shouldn't try rescuing my baby either, right?
Do you really think an animal has the same importance as an human does? If so you have some serious issues.
What kind of 'serious issues' are those? Perhaps you can enlighten me, and i'll seek help.
I've had 5 or 6 cats which have gone to cat heaven but I always just get another cat, if a family member dies I cannot replace them.

By that logic, you could just marry someone else, or have another kid
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While everybody establishes strong relationships with their pets, very strong, you cannot compare them to a human member of your family. Your wife didn't bear a dog. You aren't going to watch your dog go through school, you aren't going to watch your dog graduate college, marry somebody, live a life, have kids of their own, etc.

If you run in and save your dog, while dying int he process, your wife has lost her huband of 10 years, your children will grow up without a dad, your family will no longer be able to afford their basic needs, etc.

If you lose the dog, everyone will be upset, no doubt, but it isn't going to change your life drastically for years to come.

Don't get mad at me, I am an animal lover as much as the next person, but I am realistic when it comes to serious matters.

I agree. I loved my pets like anyone else but if it came down to it, I'm not gonna kill myself to save them. It would suck, and it would be a hard decision to make, but it would be made.

 

LeeTJ

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Final point

i watched the video and i noted MANY people said they had pets in the building. The cops basically told EVERYONE to stay back and only ONE person went after his dog.

What if others saw it and said, HEY i have pets in there to. let me go after MY pet.

would you have been pleased with the site of 10 to 15 (numbers out of my ass) go after their pets?? Do you imagine that ALL of those people would have made it safely??

If it was ONE house, ONE owner and ONE pet, mb it could be overlooked, BECAUSE it was an APARTMENT COMPLEX, MANY OWNERS and MANY PETS, you just cannot condone that type of action.

YOU CAN NOT. IT ENDANGERS TOO MANY LIVES. they also have to arrest him as a matter of principle.
 

Ultima

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Originally posted by: Marshallj
I don't blame you for coming onto the Internet and being a smart alec. You've already revealed that you're a coward in real life, Internet forums probably give you a good release... a chance to be heard, a chance to be noticed.

lol can you make your point without personal attacks? All I see in your posts is "coward this coward that". You'd kill yourself over some mutt, he wouldn't. Whatever?

As for me, if it came down to it, if the house wasn't already BURNING DOWN with flames coming out the windows I would probably go in. I already have. However, if the house is in the process of burning down then fvck that, not gonna kill myself over it.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Marshallj
I don't blame you for coming onto the Internet and being a smart alec. You've already revealed that you're a coward in real life, Internet forums probably give you a good release... a chance to be heard, a chance to be noticed.

lol can you make your point without personal attacks? All I see in your posts is "coward this coward that". You'd kill yourself over some mutt, he wouldn't. Whatever?

As for me, if it came down to it, if the house wasn't already BURNING DOWN with flames coming out the windows I would probably go in. I already have. However, if the house is in the process of burning down then fvck that, not gonna kill myself over it.

You coward!!!!!!
 

amdskip

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From what I understand, the fire was not even in their apartment at the time. It was in the other end of the complex and their main concern was creating a pathway for air to flow feeding the fire.
 

MacBaine

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Originally posted by: amdskip
From what I understand, the fire was not even in their apartment at the time. It was in the other end of the complex and their main concern was creating a pathway for air to flow feeding the fire.

But obviously this man knew that, carefully considered his options and their potential outcomes, and made a decision based on logic and reasoning. His years of experience with fires made him much better qualified to assess the risk than the firefighters'.