Why you should stay away from Viewsonic and the associated RMA hell

tweakerxp

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I?m writing to explain my experiences with Viewsonic, and why I believe you should never buy a Viewsonic display again. I am also interested in hearing your comments and encounters with Viewsonic and especially their RMA department.

My story is quite lengthy; therefore I have shortened it down in the following post. I plan on posting this to several forums when it is complete.

About a year ago (April-June 2004), I paid the shipping of my Viewsonic http://www.viewsonic.com/support/deskto...monitors/proseries/p95fplusb/index.htm]P95f+B[/URL] CRT in for repair or replacement to a repair facility called Getronics in Vancouver, BC, Canada. The display was sent in due to red and green hues on the sides and corners of the screen, and some grey vertical lines and patches that began to appear and worsen after about six months of use. I was shipped the same display back and was told that there was no problem with the display, and there was nothing that they could do about it. I was pretty angry with their judgment, and had plans to RMA it to their Ontario facility. However, I figured that I could not be without the display for a long period of time, so I decided to wait until I got my new display.

In early March 2005, I got a new display and decided to call Viewsonic and request an RMA for my display again. I told them of my previous bad experience, and was told that I would have to pay the shipping of a large box carrying a 60lb display ¾ of the way across Canada, needless to say, I was not impressed. Later that day, I sent an email to Viewsonic explaining the situation and told them that if they did not send me a label or did not take this mater seriously, I would start turning my friends and fellow technical gurus (like the people on this form) away from Viewsonic products. I received a reply on March 28th, 2005 telling me that a label had been shipped out and that I would be shipped a replacement P95f+B within a week of them receiving my defective display.

I shipped the display off for its second RMA on April 6th, 2005. I received a call when Viewsonic received the monitor telling me that they could not repair it, and that it needed to be replaced. They gave me an option of getting either a beige or black display. I chose to get a black one, like the one that I sent in. I was told that they didn't have any in stock, and that it might take a few extra days; I was fine with that.

On April 25th, I received a slightly damaged Viewsonic box saying ?warranty replacement? and ?certified? on it. I opened it up, and much to my chagrin I found the same display that I sent out with a new power cord. I was angry, because they said that I would be receiving a replacement display. I figured I?d turn it on to see if it was fixed. I did so, and it was the exact same, if not worse from the possible shipping damage. Nothing had been done to solve my problems. I called them up and had them issue me another RMA number and send out another Fedex shipping label, which I received on April 29th.

On May 2nd, I shipped off the display for its third RMA to Markham, Ontario.

On May 16th, I received another slightly damaged warranty replacement box, this time containing a different display. As I was removing it from the box, I discovered that the display had some marks around the edges of the screen. It appeared as though the anti-glare coating had been rubbed off the entire display. There was also some greasy stuff all over the front bezel and a dead fly squished on the screen. I decided to hook the display up to see how it looked. I was shocked! There was some horrible hues all over the right and left hands side of the display, of which I took some pictures of. I tried replacing the VGA cable, degaussing the display and moving the display to another computer in a different room to no avail. I noticed that when the display was lightly tapped on the side, the display went all crazy, and shook like an earthquake. I called Viewsonic and told them of my experiences again, and they promised to ship another label out to me, which I should receive by the end of this week. I was also told that the next replacement would be tested before it was sent out.

Needless to say, this is my last Viewsonic display, at least until Viewsonic smartens up. I hope this post influences your decision when you buy your next display. It?s too bad Viewsonic pulled the plug on www.viewsonicsucks.com :(

Please remember that I am very interested in your experiences with Viewsonic.

Here are some of the pictures of the 3rd RMA-The first replaced display. Please note that they do not show the problem very accurately, as they were extremely hard to take.

The display showing a completely yellow image:
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The display showing a completely yellow image again:
http://img259.echo.cx/my.php?image=cimg11271kd.jpg

Showing some of the greasy stuff and were it looks as though the anti-glare coating was removed (look along the edge of the screen)
http://img170.echo.cx/my.php?image=cimg11257ov.jpg

On May 24, 2005 I received the third Fedex label for the fourth RMA. I also elected to include a letter in the monitor box describing my precious experiences, and asking them to ship the replacement to me as quickly as possible. Only time will tell if this will actually happen. The monitor should be picked up tomorrow.

On May 30, 2005 The display was received at Viewsonic. I will call and inquire about its shipping status on June 1st.

On June 1st, I called to get the tracking number for the replacement, and was told that the display was just received today (a blatant lie.) I then made sure that they had it down to test the display, which they did not. She told me that ?we don?t test displays unless there have been previous issues.? I had to explain to her that this is my fourth RMA, and that I had been promised that the replacement display would be tested. I was then told that this testing would take an additional 2-3 days. Argh!

June 7, 2005 AM. I called again to get a tracking number, and was told that the replacement had not shipped yet.

June 9, 2005: I have received the second replacement!!! This time, the display was shipped from their United States headquarters in Walnut California via Fedex Express! The unit appears to be working fairly well this time, but it?s definitely not perfect. I have noticed that there are two small, but noticeable areas where the glass appears to be refracting the image behind it like a prism. These appear to be chips in the glass. There are also some minor places where the anti-glare coating was removed, and a single dead pixel. The screen also has some fait vertical banding, and some shadowing issues.

Revision 1.6 June 9, 2005: Added information regarding the fourth RMA.
 

VIAN

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That sucks ass. Influence assimilated.

So what happened, you still didn't get a good viewsonic after all this time, or did you get a refund.
 

tweakerxp

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Originally posted by: VIAN
That sucks ass. Influence assimilated.

So what happened, you still didn't get a good viewsonic after all this time, or did you get a refund.

Well, I'm supposed to get a mailing label by tomorrow and ship this display off. In about 2-3 weeks, I should have another replacement display that is working, and hopefully not all greasy and anti anti-glared.
 

Auric

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I would try sending all that info to the appropriate head honcho and request a brand-new replacement for your troubles.
 

AnnoyedGrunt

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I have a P95f+, and it has been running quite well for the last year+

However, it did take 2 monitors before I found one with an acceptable picture. Luckily, I bought from a local shop with very good customer service so I was able to return the first monitor and show them the problem. We then tested several others until I found one I was happy with.

The shop people said something that I had noticed during my research - CRT quality has dropped significantly since LCD's have come on the scene. Even high end CRT's seem to have quality problems, and you never quite know what you are going to get. I think all the cost cutting done to make CRT's inexpensive has resulted in lower quality monitors than were available in the past.

I've learned a couple things from my experience:
1. Always buy local
2. Always look at the specific monitor you will be buying before leaving the store. This way you can check for color/convergence/clarity on CRT, or for stuck pixels on an LCD.

As far as viewsonic goes, they seem to have good LCD's, but your story will be weighed when I make my next purchase.

Thanks, and good luck!

-D'oh!
 

tweakerxp

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May 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
welcome, fellow RFDer :)

Hehe Thanks!

And thanks to everyone for their support. I'm glad you found this information useful. I should be getting my third shipping label today, so I'll keep your guys up to date when I get another replacement in two-three weeks time.
 

tweakerxp

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Originally posted by: Emultra
It's supposed to say "about a year ago (may-june 2004), I believe.

I can't believe I missed that, thanks for the awesome reading skills!
 

djotai

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I have sent an email to viewsonic sales, directing them to your post
and asking why should I buy any of their product after reading
about such an experience. I'll post their reply (if any).
I definitely second the motion - do not buy viewsonic products and
let them know why by emailing.
There are several good monitors on the market, from companies
which dont get such posts from their customers.
Djotai
 
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Oh man, I sent a ViewSonic VP171B for RMA because I was getting pink distortion. I got it back and the top cover for the adjustable stand was busted off. I e-mailed them and they sent me a new one and I replaced it myself. The panel was the exact one I sent in.

Believe it or not, this was reasonable (NOT good) service to me. They screwed up and they fixed it...even if it was twice. A lot of places would have just dicked you around for months and months and/or flatly refused to do anything.

So I will concur that their service is frickin lousy, but it is existent which is notable.
 

tweakerxp

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May 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: djotai
I have sent an email to viewsonic sales, directing them to your post
and asking why should I buy any of their product after reading
about such an experience. I'll post their reply (if any).
I definitely second the motion - do not buy viewsonic products and
let them know why by emailing.
There are several good monitors on the market, from companies
which dont get such posts from their customers.
Djotai

Thank-you for your support! I have updated the first post to include information about the shipping label I just received.
 
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Huh.

M4H's RMA Experience with Viewsonic
A two-part play

The Call
M4H: Hi, my E90 is dying. It's got a significant amount of horizontal jitter at all resolutions and refresh rates. I've tried multiple computers and moving any devices that could potentially cause interference.
Viewsonic: Okay, what's your SN?
M4H: 1234567890.
Viewsonic: Hold on one moment sir.

*music plays*

Intermission

The Solution
*music plays*

Viewsonic: Okay sir, you're still within your warranty period. Are you able to return this to the place of purchase?
M4H: Yes, I bought it from the local Staples.
Viewsonic: Okay, here's your RMA number 12345678. Return it to Staples and give them the RMA number and my contact information, they'll give you a new one.
M4H: Thank you.

So did I get lucky, or did you get unlucky?

- M4H
 

tweakerxp

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May 18, 2005
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It looks like you got very lucky. Either Staples or their supplier got hit with the horrendous task of RMAing the display back to Viewsonic.
 

djotai

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To MercenaryForHire and the rest of you guys and gals-
seriously, good service should not be a matter of luck,
location, or some other type of favoritism. Hard earned
money is given in exchange of a product which MUST
INCLUDE good service. Denying a customer the availabilty
of good service is tantamount to defrauding him/her.
It's largely a matter of the retailer - the manufacturer
must get your feedback on the quality of service his
retailers offer, so they could weed out the bad ones.
Guys and gals - DO complain of such problems to the
manufacturers. Its practically the only thing we can do
to try and get better service in the future so we can
enjoy the products we buy even when they malfunction.
 

cbehnken

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Yeah my brother has this same monitor you have and it is terrible too. It whines horribly and has bad convergence. They sent a replacement and it was much much worse. So he wanted another replacement and they said they were shipping another one, but later emailed him and said they would not ship another.

They used to be a good company, but no more.
 

tweakerxp

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May 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: djotai
I have sent an email to viewsonic sales, directing them to your post
and asking why should I buy any of their product after reading
about such an experience. I'll post their reply (if any).
I definitely second the motion - do not buy viewsonic products and
let them know why by emailing.
There are several good monitors on the market, from companies
which dont get such posts from their customers.
Djotai
I take it that you never received a reply from Viewsonic. That's what their typical procedure is, it seems.
 

xxxAgentxxx

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damn... I was seriously looking at picking up a nice 19" LCD from them until I saw this... I figured for being one of the premier display companies they would be much more professional than that.
 

JonnyBlaze

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how long are viewsonics under warrenty? my pf795 just died. i had it for over 5 years i think. replaced it with a dell 2005fp so im not too worried about it.

 

PClark99

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wow, thats a shame that viewsonic did such a poor job.

I have 2 viewsonic crts, an A95F and an A75F. I have had them for 4 and 5 years and they still work like new.

I will seriously think twice though about getting another monitor, especially an LCD from them in the future.
 

VIAN

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You know what tweaker, you should just say, "I don't want your sht cause it sucks. I'm going over to buy a Dell. Bye and I hope you business crumbles quickly for making my life so difficult."

That's what you should do, go buy a Dell LCD.

Oh, you're buying a CRT. Umm. Go buy a Samsung CRT.
 

T9D

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My viewsonic A90f+ has been screwed up from soon after I got it. Everytime I come off of standby or a fresh start it turns black and makes some hidious squeeling noise. I have to unplug it from the VGA cable and then unplug it from wall outlet everytime. What a pain!

And it also has some screwed up geometry problems too. The toolbar for windows is super thin when I start but when I open a window it fixes itself. And there are some spots where it's all wiggly looking.

But it's not worth shipping a huge heavy monitor like this and dealing with all the customer support crap too. Especially with instances like you've had. Stupid Viewsonic I'm never buying them again. I'm going to buy a big LCD eventually.