why wouldn't you vote for hillary?

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ProfJohn

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She is to polarizing.

I would say that there is a good chance that America will be looking for someone who can bring the country together after this mess and in fighting we have had for the past 5 or so years.

Which means Hillary and Newt are both not likely to win, although nothing is certain.
This is good news for people like Romney or some Democrat governor. People who have been out of Washington and not part of the partisan in fighting.

A moderate Republican or Democrat might do the country some good.. assuming one can get nominated.

I think the VP question might be more interesting. There is a really good chance we could see a female VP this time, and one who has a chance to win unlike Mondale in 1984. Think about it, if Hillary decided she can?t win the presidency and sits the nominating process out and then the nominee comes to her and offers her the chance to be the first female VP, would Hillary pass that chance up? And would the Republicans respond by nominating Condi Rice for VP?
I see your female, and raise you a black person hmmmm
 

aidanjm

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Aug 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: piasabird
Ever heard of the Rose Law Firm?

She worked at a law firm where records she worked on disappeared, and then reappeared mysteriously while she was at the Whitehouse. Where were these records and what did she know about them? She claimed her head was a bowl of Jello and did not know anything about it. She and her law firm are both crooks and liars.

Actually, more time and money have been spent investigating the Clintons than has been spent on any other President in history of the USA (including George Bush). They verdict is that the Clintons are "clean". Creating doubt about the Clinton's past was a right wing tactic that was used to attempt to "destroy" the Clintons, the mud is sticking I guess. You hear these idiotic allegations being spewed out by right-wing nut jobs on the various political forums.
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
She is to polarizing.

No more polarizing than Dumbya. It's funny that people are more interested in whether someone is "polarising" than whether someone is intelligent, a good administrator, good at their job.
 

senseamp

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If she was nominated, I would vote for her over a Republican. But I do hope it's someone less dividing who hopefully will put this bitter partizanship behind us for a few years.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: loki8481
why wouldn't you vote for hillary?

I try to stay clear of communism, even if it is the leading ideal in this country to redistribute wealth and grow big government.
 

AAjax

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Originally posted by: MonkeyK
Originally posted by: palehorse74
she's a criminal.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

If you consider Hillary a criminal, I'd love to see your opinion of the current president.



Lets face it, they both are.
 

BoomerD

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I dunno...I've been a Democrat all my life, and she's too dammed liberal for me. I liked Bill, and would vote for him again in a heartbeat, but I don't trust her one bit. TOO power hungry.
I agree with the poster who said that the country just isn't ready for a woman president yet. Too bad, but it's true. I'm of the opinion, that if the Democrats send Hillary up as the Democratic nominee, it will be a shoe-in for whoever the repukes run against her. She's just too hated, and too liberal, even for most dems...
 

aidanjm

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
she's too dammed liberal for me

excuse me? she supports the Iraq war, opposes gay marriage... how much less "liberal" could she be (without actually joining the Republican party?) She is a moderate to right-wing Democrat.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: loki8481
just a thought I had while watching an old episode of SNL the other day.

back in the 90's, everyone always said that Hillary was the real power behind the Clinton presidency... sorta like the Dick Cheney of the Clinton Administration, and things were pretty good on the domestic front back then.

I think you mean Bush Administration.

Well she didn't have enough power to get her Health care package through and look where we are now with the Drug/Health Industries pwning us now.

Hillary who??
oh you mean that joke of a congresswoman....rofl...hahahaaaaa...opps i spilled my coffee I

How do you spill something when it's in a sippy cup????
 

Ryan

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Originally posted by: Harvey
I wouldn't vote for her because she's just another political sellout. When she thinks she needs support from conservatives she whores herself out by supporting crap like a flag burning amendment. Then, she turns around and sells some other trick to regain part of the constituancy she lost with her previous whoring.

She strikes me as having no personal integrity, just a drive to collect as many votes as her hypocritical whoring and money can gather.

Wait - so what your saying is she doens't fit perfectly into your black and white world?
 

umbrella39

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: blackllotus
yet another Hilary thread...

Of course. Her poll numbers are in the sh!tter and the chain is desperately trying to resurrect them.

What chain? Do you really mean, "the circle" :laugh:

I have not seen much if any real support of her for president from any of the libs posting here. I am going to go out on a limb and predict that she does not even run in 2008.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: kingtas
Self serving little BIOTCH!

Name a politician that is not, self-serving and thinks more about this country than self and they have my vote.
 

kingtas

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: kingtas
Self serving little BIOTCH!

Name a politician that is not, self-serving and thinks more about this country than self and they have my vote.

Good point. I changed my original post.

 

umbrella39

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kingtas
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: kingtas
Self serving little BIOTCH!

Name a politician that is not, self-serving and thinks more about this country than self and they have my vote.

Good point. I changed my original post.

LOL. Now BIOTCH is something I think we can all agree on. But then again... name me one woman ..... lol you know the rest :)
 

compuwiz1

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I wouldn't trust any candidate, who from facial expressions, looks like she has been impaled by a giant kosher dill pickle, not unlike the kind you see at the state fair. :laugh:
 

EXman

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she's a socialist. She is trying to pander to both sides and that will kill her chances anyhow. With the ultra lefties getting more and more of the power I'm not sure she is liberal enough. I think alot of people just are turned off by her though not to mention her closet lesbian undertones. She is probably a lot better person than her husband but not as savvy in delivery of message.

Of course I remember Harry Reid and her standing on stage together saying they have a democratic platform/strategy shorty after the new year (2006) and well no hint of that.

The Dems have a great shot to take back both houses but they are going to shoot themselves in the foot with this "no solution to our prolems just blame it on Bush and hope that our country flounders just to get back the power" negative partisan message that is couter productive.
 

VooDooAddict

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Originally posted by: Harvey
I wouldn't vote for her because she's just another political sellout. When she thinks she needs support from conservatives she whores herself out by supporting crap like a flag burning amendment. Then, she turns around and sells some other trick to regain part of the constituancy she lost with her previous whoring.

Hmm someone who doesn't just stick to a party line and can cross the center line when it's rational to do so or when the popular support is there? ... why would we ever want someone like that? We want someone to stick to a corner and stay the coarse regardless of where the popular support is on the issues! err... wait a minute.

She strikes me as having no personal integrity, just a drive to collect as many votes as her hypocritical whoring and money can gather.

Damn... collecting votes by doing what people want. Evil. She should tell us what we want and where we stand instead!

I have no idea yet if I'd vote for Hillary. A) It's still uncertain if she will run. B) It's uncertain who she's running against.

If she was running against the current administration that would be a simple choice. If she were to run against a McCain/Guliani (sp?) ticket then things would be more interesting.
 

K1052

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Nominating Hillary would be the most efficent way for the Democrats to throw the next election to the Republicans short of installing big posters of Stalin at the DNC and addressing everyone as "comrade". She is just too polarizing a figure (a negative one at that to too many people).

I don't care for her myself as she won't take a firm stand on hardly anything so we have no idea what to expect if she actually made it to office. Her streak of opportunism also seems to run deeper than most career politicians and that is saying something.