Why would a desktop cost over $1600?

[Amplifier]

Budget for an Uber Desktop CPU

DFI SLI Mobo: $170
Winchester 3000+: $130
Dual PCIE 6800gts: $600
Gig Ram: $100
Speakers/Headphones: $150
Monitor: $300
Keyboard/Mouse:50
Case/PSU: $100

Edit
Linux: $0 or Windows: $110ish (assuming you don't already have a copy)
CD/DVD: $25
Harddrive: $55

Total now = $1680.




I'm not hating on FX/2005 owners, I just made this post in responce to the $2000+ budgets I've seen floating around by non-enthusists.

 

[Stokes]

What PCI-E 6800GT can you get for $300 a piece?

The only other thing I would mention is a lot of people like to have a nice case with PSU with good airflow and silencing. Some will pay more for silence then others.

 

[WraithETC]

Dual 6800GT is closer to $700 cause it has to be pci-E and only the AGP versions are $300 dollars retail.

Case/PSU is a bit more also. Unless you get a really crappy PSU to run dual 6800gts.

Maybe they just have a lot of money to spend on it and $2000 is not such a big deal. Or there parents (assuming they are teenagers) give them this budget because retail pre built computers are usually pretty expensive.

 

[Amplifier]

I'm saying for non-enthusiests. I baby my computer like most people baby their cars . Someone who doesn't know a winchester from a new castle shouldn't be spending over $1600 when the setup I listed above will outperform whatever mismatch of parts they put together.

As far as the prices I used. Cases for the non-enthusiest should be at ~$20. The PSU/6800gt's I judged off of the deals I saw w/rebates.

 

[CrimsonChaos]

Funny you should post this cause in my other thread I'm asking about a computer costing around $2,400 - and I don't even have a monitor/speakers listed in it (already have those). Take a look at it and let me know what I can change to get the price down.

I will say that you don't have a sound card listed, or any CD/DVD devices listed, and I don't see a hard drive listed either (or dual-hard drives as many people get these days).

I can see where it can easily get up to $2,000 with those things added.

 

[Mark2582]

I have about a $2000 budget and will be building this PC soon. There are several problems with your idea though.
1) Not everyone wants to overclock. Therefore they spend more money on a CPU that runs faster at stock speeds.
2) I would like to know where you found 6800GT's in PCI-E for $300 as I would gladly pick one up .
3) Some people want an LCD monitor. For a good gaming quality one, that's a lot more. Also there are CRT's that are easily $150 more than that for a good quality one.
4) Good luck running a SLI setup with a case and PSU you got for $100.
5) Where is the DVD/Floppy/Hard drives?
A combination of all of these factors lead to a higher priced PC.

 

[slpaulson]

You're assuming a lot when you choose your prices....

Plus you aren't accounting for software

Also not everybody overclocks, so they might prefer to spend more on a CPU.

$300 for a monitor is pretty cheap too.

Although personally I'm not a huge supporter of dual video cards.

 

[Mark2582]

True, you also forgot Windows. Also, when you are running an SLI setup, you better have something nicer than a $300 monitor .

 

[plagiarist]

There are 90 dollar Korean CRTs at walmart that actually have comparible detail to my NEC. The thing is you get smaller screen size and more propensity for part of it to grow wrong. Around a square inch at the upper right corner of my mom's monitor that I got her has lost focus. So.. you can go WAY cheaper and still get good crisp quality, but whether it STAYS quality is a bit of a gamble.

 

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by: Mark2582
I have about a $2000 budget and will be building this PC soon. There are several problems with your idea though.
1) Not everyone wants to overclock. Therefore they spend more money on a CPU that runs faster at stock speeds.
2) I would like to know where you found 6800GT's in PCI-E for $300 as I would gladly pick one up .
3) Some people want an LCD monitor. For a good gaming quality one, that's a lot more. Also there are CRT's that are easily $150 more than that for a good quality one.
4) Good luck running a SLI setup with a case and PSU you got for $100.
5) Where is the DVD/Floppy/Hard drives?
A combination of all of these factors lead to a higher priced PC.

I forgot about the CD/Windows/Harddrives because I have dozens lying around my house. But in reality most people already own an OS and a harddrive + cd = $80.

As far as overclocking, I don't expect anyone who uses the setup I listed to overclock. The difference between 2.4ghz and 1.8ghz is hard to notice for a nonenthusist unless they are using a benchmark.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Originally posted by: Amplifier
I'm saying for non-enthusiests. I baby my computer like most people baby their cars . Someone who doesn't know a winchester from a new castle shouldn't be spending over $1600 when the setup I listed above will outperform whatever mismatch of parts they put together.

As far as the prices I used. Cases for the non-enthusiest should be at ~$20. The PSU/6800gt's I judged off of the deals I saw w/rebates.

You're off by at least $300 considering it is a PCI-e SLi setup. Sorry.

 

[hippotautamus]

Your prices are skewed because you went cheap on so many things. Most people (ocers included) opt for a faster CPU, ram, and like to have a new, large capacity hard drive - not to mention optical drive and such. These things add up quickly.

 

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by: Pr0d1gy

Originally posted by: Amplifier
I'm saying for non-enthusiests. I baby my computer like most people baby their cars . Someone who doesn't know a winchester from a new castle shouldn't be spending over $1600 when the setup I listed above will outperform whatever mismatch of parts they put together.

As far as the prices I used. Cases for the non-enthusiest should be at ~$20. The PSU/6800gt's I judged off of the deals I saw w/rebates.

You're off by at least $300 considering it is a PCI-e SLi setup. Sorry.

Sorry? I hope you aren't one of the SLI users who spends over $100 for their PSU. If so then I'm sorry for you
.
p.s. $300? You're either misreading my thread or miscalculating the numbers.

 

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by: hippotautamus
Your prices are skewed because you went cheap on so many things. Most people (ocers included) opt for a faster CPU, ram, and like to have a new, large capacity hard drive - not to mention optical drive and such. These things add up quickly.

I don't go cheap for anything. But when someone comes on the board and says

"I'm getting this $200 psu and this $400 cpu and then spending $350 on storage then grabbing $200 memory and before I forget I'll spend $150 on optical drives"

I'm like "w-t-f mate".

For a first build there is no reason to overspend on a CPU/CD/Harddisk. You can get SLI for less than $1700 and a very highend setup for less than $900.

 

[rise]

i don't understand what you mean by over spending if it isn't your money.

you're right , even an sli s/u can be had for around 2,000. some of your numbers are off. i mean if i were to spend $700 for a couple 6800gts then i'm not trying to run them on a $50 psu or putting them in a $50 case. also, a $50 HDD makes no sense when you can get a far better value, $/gig, at $100 or so.

 

[frx218]

there a few flaws with the system and prices, it could be better.

 

[n yusef]

Also, that $25 optical drive makes no sence. You should at least get a DVD burner now-a-days. A $50 HDD (about 80GB I suppose) is hardly cutting it anymore. $300 PCIe 6800GT's are nonexistant. The $300 monitor is also out of place. If you have SLI, you want to be able to play at 1600*1200 with playable refresh rates. Not to mention that some people want LCDs, which will cost you more than $300 for 1600*1200 too (the lowest price for a Dell 2001FP is around $400 with a lot of coupons). The case/PSU are skeptical also. A $50 case that can keep two 6800GT's cool? A $50 PSU that can power everything? I want links... You have good intentions, you just exaggerated a bit. I think that $2k is a better budget if you want to do anything besides say that you have SLI (i.e. have fun gaming).

 

[n yusef]

That $25 optical drive makes no sence. You should at least get a DVD burner now-a-days. A $50 HDD (about 80GB I suppose) is hardly cutting it anymore. $300 PCIe 6800GT's are nonexistant. The $300 monitor is also out of place. If you have SLI, you want to be able to play at 1600*1200 with playable refresh rates. Not to mention that some people want LCDs, which will cost you more than $300 for 1600*1200 too (the lowest price for a Dell 2001FP is around $400 with a lot of coupons). The case/PSU are skeptical also. A $50 case that can keep two 6800GT's cool? A $50 PSU that can power everything? I want links... You have good intentions, you just exaggerated a bit. I think that $2k is a better budget if you want to do anything besides say that you have SLI (i.e. have fun gaming).
EDIT: Sorry for the double post.

 

[mechBgon]

$55 hard drive in an SLI rig? $100 case/PSU combo for a dual-6800GT SLI setup? C'mon man, the Dodge Viper shouldn't have the wheels & tires off of a base-model Neon

 

[6000SUX]

A desktop with a 3000+ is not that "uber". Your money would be better spent on a single graphics card and better processor, all else being equal-- that is, unless you're really making an Xbox replacement and not a desktop. Oh, and the CPU is the processor, not the case plus everything in it.

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: Amplifier
I'm saying for non-enthusiests. I baby my computer like most people baby their cars . Someone who doesn't know a winchester from a new castle shouldn't be spending over $1600 when the setup I listed above will outperform whatever mismatch of parts they put together.

As far as the prices I used. Cases for the non-enthusiest should be at ~$20. The PSU/6800gt's I judged off of the deals I saw w/rebates.

Your setup makes no sense what-so-ever. Non-enthusist wouldn't be buying SLI rig in the first place. Non-enthusist wouldn't even buy one 6800gt let alone two.

 

[imported_rod]

A decent priced system would go something more like my system (see sig).

You were generally on the right track. I agree that the actual difference between a 3000+ and a 3800+ wouldn't be notice by a non-enthusiast. And you can get a quality CRT for $300, especially if you wait for a sale.

I do see a couple of problems with that setup though:

MoBo: A non-enthusiast would not get a DFI board. They probably wouldn't know what a DFI board is.

VC: SLI for non-enthusiasts?...

SOUND: $150 on speakers! You can get 5.1 surround for $100, and quality 2.1 for $60.

RoD

 

[Mik3y]

i see the cpu is an uber bottleneck. u sux at teh comps

 

[Zepper]

A lot of folks having more money than sense seems to account for a lot of it....

.bh.