Why won't Trump go birther on Rafael Cruz?

[HomerJS]

The constitution specifically says "natural born citizen" is required for POTUS. It does not say "naturalized" Mr. Cruz was born in Canada. Not US soil, not an official territory. His citizenship is a legitimate issue in running for office. Trump had no trouble with the made up BS when the negro was running. Obama was born in Hawaii.

So what's up?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Go birther on what? An American citizen born abroad??

 

[glenn1]

There are lawsuits pending in New Hampshire about Cruz's eligibility on these grounds. What else would you have Trump do, given that the court will have the final say on the matter?

 

[Blackjack200]

There are lawsuits pending in New Hampshire about Cruz's eligibility on these grounds. What else would you have Trump do, given that the court will have the final say on the matter?

What say did Trump have with respect to Obama's eligibility? I guess his racist supporters won't respond as well.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

After last night its apparent to me that Cruz and Trump have an agreement to hit the others. Cruz hits Rubio and Trump hits Bush, I'm starting to think they'll be running mates.

 

[mxnerd]

If Ted Cruz's parents are Americans, even though he was born in Canada, then no problem, right?

 

[fskimospy]

The constitution specifically says "natural born citizen" is required for POTUS. It does not say "naturalized" Mr. Cruz was born in Canada. Not US soil, not an official territory. His citizenship is a legitimate issue in running for office. Trump had no trouble with the made up BS when the negro was running. Obama was born in Hawaii.

So what's up?

Because he won't get nearly as much attention out of the whole birther thing if he pulls it again on Cruz. He's already played it out once, and people won't tune in that much for what seems like a rehash (and a politically opportunistic one at that). Remember, his goal is always to have people pay attention to him, not to put forth a substantive or coherent world view.

That does remind me, I wonder when he's going to release the findings of that crack team of detectives he sent to Hawaii that he said had found things 'you wouldn't believe'? lol.

 

[dullard]

If Ted Cruz's parents are Americans, even though he was born in Canada, then no problem, right?

According to whose definition?

The phrase natural born citizen was not defined in the constitution and it has not be directly ruled upon by the supreme court. Until then, different people could have different interpretations. For example, you could use the 14th amendment as a basis even though it too doesn't directly define a natural born citizen: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States". Or you could go off of history where for many years people born outside of the US (even if the parents were US citizens) were not always considered to be citizens.

That said, if it ever got to the supreme court, I would assume that they would consider Cruz a natural born citizen.

 

[cyclohexane]

You think Trump cares about the constitution?

Lol, this guy and the rest of his moron supporters have already called for violation of everything in the constitution, I doubt he understands or cares about what "natural born" is supposed to mean.

 

[glenn1]

What say did Trump have with respect to Obama's eligibility? I guess his racist supporters won't respond as well.

The man has already said he thinks most Mexicans are criminals and that we should stop Muslim immigration because we should assume they're terrorists. Yet given all that you think that questioning Cruz's citizenship is what's going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back for minorities considering voting for him?

 

[thraashman]

If Ted Cruz's parents are Americans, even though he was born in Canada, then no problem, right?

Only Cruz's mother was an American citizen when Rafael "Call me Ted so conservatives think I'm white" Cruz was born. His father was a Cuban refugee that had been granted asylum in the US and was living in Canada, he became a citizen of the US in 2005. Ted didn't renounce his own Canadian citizenship until 2014.

Go birther on what? An American citizen born abroad??

And Obama is an American citizen born in America yet that didn't stop Trump (or other huge swaths of the Tea Party base) from making all sorts of idiotic claims.

 

[HomerJS]

Only Cruz's mother was an American citizen when Rafael "Call me Ted so conservatives think I'm white" Cruz was born. His father was a Cuban refugee that had been granted asylum in the US and was living in Canada, he became a citizen of the US in 2005. Ted didn't renounce his own Canadian citizenship until 2014.


And Obama is an American citizen born in America yet that didn't stop Trump (or other huge swaths of the Tea Party base) from making all sorts of idiotic claims.

Just wondering if he became a citizen in 2005, how can he be a "natural born citizen"?

 

[mxnerd]

I think several years back when Arnold was very popular, Republican even wanted him to be POTUS.

 

[HomerJS]

Only Cruz's mother was an American citizen when Rafael "Call me Ted so conservatives think I'm white" Cruz was born. His father was a Cuban refugee that had been granted asylum in the US and was living in Canada, he became a citizen of the US in 2005. Ted didn't renounce his own Canadian citizenship until 2014.

Think he thanks God he wasn't born a dark skinned Hispanic?

 

[BxgJ]

Just wondering if he became a citizen in 2005, how can he be a "natural born citizen"?

I think he meant Cruz's father became a citizen in '05.

 

[glenn1]

I think several years back when Arnold was very popular, Republican even wanted him to be POTUS.

IIRC there was some musing about whether the natural-born requirement should be removed via amendment but nothing serious came out of it. That's a reasonable enough question to ask but I do think there's bigger fish to fry if you're going to put all the work into passing an amendment to the constitution. It's not like we lack for candidates and need to start recruiting them from overseas.

 

[DrPizza]

Cruz was born in Canada - CANADA - to a U.S. citizen. Though there's been no ruling from the courts (afaik), most people consider that to make him a natural born U.S. citizen. Obama (allegedly, according to birthers) was born in Kenya - KENYA - to a U.S. citizen. Though there's been no ruling from the courts (afaik), most people consider that to make him a natural born U.S. citizen. So, even if Obama's birth was as birther's claim, he's still a natural born citizen.


So, what's the difference? Why do they care about Obama (allegedly Kenya) and not Cruz (Canada). Canada... Kenya. Canada... Kenya.

The conclusion is pretty inescapable.

 

[HomerJS]

Cruz was born in Canada - CANADA - to a U.S. citizen. Though there's been no ruling from the courts (afaik), most people consider that to make him a natural born U.S. citizen. Obama (allegedly, according to birthers) was born in Kenya - KENYA - to a U.S. citizen. Though there's been no ruling from the courts (afaik), most people consider that to make him a natural born U.S. citizen. So, even if Obama's birth was as birther's claim, he's still a natural born citizen.


So, what's the difference? Why do they care about Obama (allegedly Kenya) and not Cruz (Canada). Canada... Kenya. Canada... Kenya.

The conclusion is pretty inescapable.

Absolutely. The other part which is part of what makes the GOP base so fucked up. They bought the Obama birther argument which is based on a lie that he wasn't born in the US.

The Cruz birther argument is based on a true premise that he was born in Canada and they won't go there.

 

[boomerang]

This place is like High School.

 

[senseamp]

Cruz is useful to Trump. He sucks out oxygen from others considered more "electable" by the GOP establishment (donors) like Rubio or Bush.

 

[mxnerd]

Obama (allegedly, according to birthers) was born in Kenya - KENYA - to a U.S. citizen.

You are hillarious.

 

[BoberFett]

This place is like High School.

You're being generous.

 

[Meghan54]

You are hillarious.

Dr. Pizza's commentary went right over your head, didn't it? And you weren't even quick enough to catch it.

 

[boomerang]

You're being generous.

You're absolutely right. I had thoughts of returning to edit it to say, 'This place is like middle school with spell check'.

 

[JSt0rm]

Go birther on what? An American citizen born abroad??

As opposed to obama?