why won't nvidia drop their prices?

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Is anyone else wondering why it still costs $500 for a new gtx 295? The 5870 offers nearly the same performance @ $120 less in a single gpu card. It must mean that people are still blindly buying nvidia cards just to buy nvidia. Or is nvidia just that greedy? If thats the case then they drop a notch in my book.

 

[CyberAtomix]

never matters to me i buy what is cheap and good so far ati for me not spending 500.00 dollars for a gpu

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Is anyone else wondering why it still costs $500 for a new gtx 295? The 5870 offers nearly the same performance @ $120 less in a single gpu card. It must mean that people are still blindly buying nvidia cards just to buy nvidia. Or is nvidia just that greedy? If thats the case then they drop a notch in my book.

That is the most likely explanation. Same reason that people bought slower and more expensive Pentium 4s during the Athlon 64 era. ATI doesn't have the same brand name power as Nvidia yet.

 

[Blazer]

have used nvidia for a long time, because of thier pricing and lack of product for my needs i went Ati, and glad i did.

but as long as the user pays inflated pricing it will remain inflated !

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I'd say its because the 5xxx series doesn't quite have the kind of availability everyone would want at the moment, coupled with the fact that there is nothing out there at makes serious use of DX11 quite yet. Nvidia can leave their cards right where they are, and people will pay the slight premium for Nvidia.

Other option is that they simply cannot afford to drop the price any further.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'm all for paying a premium for nvidia products when the performance is there. Now that ati has the performance crown nvidia should drop prices accordingly. I paid the premium for my gtx 280 now return the favor and drop prices like you should instead of trying to gouge us!

 

[bunnyfubbles]

My guess is availability of the 5800s isn't wide spread enough to warrant price cuts just yet.

 

[T2k]

Give ti a few weeks - even if NV is hoping on a very limited PRware GT300 launch before Christmas, they HAVE to lower their prices otherwise they will not sell anything in the biggest quarter of the year.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

They are still trying to squeeze $$$ from the un-educated shopper plain and simple. I use to like AMD for their price for performance but now I wont buy nVidia in spite of their arrogant, greedy CEO - just my opinion, please don't flame, rather educated me if I am wrong

 

[TemjinGold]

Originally posted by: BTRY B 529th FA BN
They are still trying to squeeze $$$ from the un-educated shopper plain and simple. I use to like AMD for their price for performance but now I wont buy nVidia in spite of their arrogant, greedy CEO - just my opinion, please don't flame, rather educated me if I am wrong

But the uneducated shoppers usually scoop up the uber 2gb GTS 240s! :thumbsup:

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Is anyone else wondering why it still costs $500 for a new gtx 295?

Has been $470 for several weeks.

Still, at the high end there is no such thing as "bang for buck." Is an Extreme Edition 975 at $1000 really $450 more in performance over a Core i7 950? No, but people buy it because it is (currently) the best. The GTX 295 is still arguably the "best" that uses a single PCIe slot, so it will retain the pricing until either the new Nvidia cards (GT300/Fermi?) comes out or the dual ATI cards (5870x2) comes out.

Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
drop prices like you should instead of trying to gouge us!

If you aren't happy with pricing, don't buy. Products are usually priced at what the market will bear for that particular item. Apparently there is no (yet) reason to massively drop prices. Whether or not that pisses people off, that's just the way a free market works.

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
My guess is availability of the 5800s isn't wide spread enough to warrant price cuts just yet.

That could be a factor as well.

 

[Rezist]

Also nVidia has the name brand that everyone knows like Intel. The P4 reference has already been made but it's the same thing here as well. Until market perception changes this will always work, nVidia will never have to compete on a price/performance scale with ATi since there better known.

 

[nOOky]

I wouldn't say nvidia is better known, at least not among people who do any amount of research when buying. Maybe for the idiot who picks up whatever the kid at Best Buy tells them is best. nvidia will adjust their pricing in time. It's a hard time of the year to be behind in the gpu wars imho. The Christmas season is a big upgrade time, some great games are coming out. If one were to buy something to play Modern Warfare 2 maxed for example just because, I couldn't see a reason to buy nvidia unless you're bumping up to sli.
In any event, competition will help us all no matter what brand you prefer.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Is anyone else wondering why it still costs $500 for a new gtx 295? The 5870 offers nearly the same performance @ $120 less in a single gpu card. It must mean that people are still blindly buying nvidia cards just to buy nvidia. Or is nvidia just that greedy? If thats the case then they drop a notch in my book.

Nearly the same is not the same still. That's why.

 

[thilanliyan]

nVidia is definitely better known amongst "non-techie" people...I didn't realize it until I ran into it myself. It's like Intel vs AMD (well maybe not as bad).

 

[Wreckage]

Because NVIDIA has had the better product for years now. Just because AMD comes out with a new card (with limited availability), is not going to change things.

 

[s44]

Step-up?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

ATI needs to shell out some money to get their logo thrown on some games. Forget optimizations and all that other crap, just get their logo in a game's opening movies. What good is having cards if people have no brand recognition, and see "Nvidia" on damn near every game they fire-up (regardless of whether or not the equivalent Nvidia product out performs the ATI part or not). ATI needs to learn some of Nvidia's business sense and start playing rough.

 

[nitromullet]

Couple of potential reasons... Perhaps it's also because the GTX 295 cost a lot more than the 5870 to produce? Maybe NVIDIA doesn't want to sell out of GTX 295s right up until Fermi comes out, but doesn't want to make any more GT200 chips.

Or maybe NV doesn't want to get a "bargain" reputation. Understandable when you consider the amount of bitching we saw over the $379 price tag of the HD 5870, which IMO is a very reasonable price for what the 5870 offers. ATI did it to themselves though, by going after the value market they made it difficult for themselves to release a premium product that commands a premium price.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Because NVIDIA has had the better product for years now. Just because AMD comes out with a new card (with limited availability), is not going to change things.

Really? I think AMD/ATi has offered competitive counterparts to Nv's products for a very long time.

 

[OCGuy]

Because they dont have to, people will buy them.

 

[Isura]

Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
drop prices like you should instead of trying to gouge us!

If you aren't happy with pricing, don't buy. Products are usually priced at what the market will bear for that particular item. Apparently there is no (yet) reason to massively drop prices. Whether or not that pisses people off, that's just the way a free market works.

This isn't a free market. It's an oligopoly and nvidia can continue to rape us with their price setting strategy.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Rezist
Also nVidia has the name brand that everyone knows like Intel.

ATI has been a known namebrand for over a decade... They have had the performance crown more than nvidia has since the 9xxx series. Their roles have shifted since then though, ATI now has better budget cards. Even their big performers are a steal compared to nvidia cards. Frankly I've never had any reason to ever get an nvidia card, everytime I'm in the market ATI has the best.

 

[lopri]

More realistic reason is that NV has already sold the cards at a price to AIB partners. Lowering prices before their inventories are taken care of would anger the partners very much, and NV can't afford to pay back the difference. (Wasn't there such a drama between NV and XFX around GT200 launch?)

 

[Qbah]

They don't drop prices because the cards still sell at an acceptable level for them? If anything, that should help the new Radeon cards in the incoming weeks as awareness and availability increases.