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Why Windows Vista WILL suck..

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Need proof? In January, Microsoft shipped the first security patch for Vista. It was for the WMF (Windows Metafile) hole. You know, the one, that my security guru friend Larry Seltzer called, "one of those careless things Microsoft did years ago with little or no consideration for the security consequences."

Good job of cleaning up the core operating system, Microsoft!
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Well, first, the WMF vulnerability was never part of the core operating system, nor is it associated with the "kernel" in the way that you imply. It makes sense that rather than put early resources into rewriting WMF support for Vista, MS incorporated the existing WMF functions, and then had to patch them.

The rest of your points seem to boil down to the same old: MS should have done this years ago. That might be true, in some relativistic sense, but ultimately it's not even a remotely useful point of view. MS had to deal with the realities of business and an installed user base. They made the decisions they made, and they are where they are. Comparisons with niche operating systems like Linux and BSD are, frankly, silly.

D'oh, I also didn't realize that was an excerpt from the article, and not OP's commentary on it. Post-n-run indeed.
 
There is no such thing as PVR - "Personal Video Recorder" ?!?!?!

How about personal word processor, or personal spreadsheet ?


Idiot, the word personal means NOTHING and adds NOTHING here. If you want to imply it's an application rather than a device just say so. A better term is Digital Video Recording (DVR) application.
 
Originally posted by: DidlySquat
There is no such thing as PVR - "Personal Video Recorder" ?!?!?!

How about personal word processor, or personal spreadsheet ?


Idiot, the word personal means NOTHING and adds NOTHING here. If you want to imply it's an application rather than a device just say so. A better term is Digital Video Recording (DVR) application.
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Really? Googled lately? Not that I care.. I'm just sayin.

PVR
 
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built-in Intel GMA (graphics media accelerator) 950 graphics. That's a fairly powerful machine.
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I would not consider Intel GMA "fairly powerful"; it's a low-end onboard video chipset. If you really want to take advantage of any 3D aplications (including the Vista GUI) you're going to need a better GPU.
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That's the first thing that crossed my mind too. I'm not satisfied with Intel EG2's performance even on the default WinXP 2-dimensional GUI. It doesn't surprise me that it struggles with Vista's GUI too.

I'd suggest you spend $50 and slap some sort of PCI-E card into your work box. Regardless of OS, if you have an actual need for a 2.8GHz Pentium D, why make it fight with onboard video for the memory bandwidth? It is not logical, Captain 😕

If you have no PCI-E x16 slot, then I sympathize. We have some pre-built systems at work like that. :|
 
Originally posted by: stash
Uh to be fair, IGBT didn't write it. He just posted and ran. This is why we need to have a rule against post and runs. You need to add some content.
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I think there's a section in the Patriot Act that covers this act of Forum Terrorism. 😉
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
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built-in Intel GMA (graphics media accelerator) 950 graphics. That's a fairly powerful machine.
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I would not consider Intel GMA "fairly powerful"; it's a low-end onboard video chipset. If you really want to take advantage of any 3D aplications (including the Vista GUI) you're going to need a better GPU.
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That's the first thing that crossed my mind too. I'm not satisfied with Intel EG2's performance even on the default WinXP 2-dimensional GUI. It doesn't surprise me that it struggles with Vista's GUI too.
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Extreme Graphics 2 != GMA 950.

GMA 950 is a entirely new video card. Still embedded with shared memory. But uses PCI E instead of a propriatory connection. Much faster.

It's fast enough to play Wolfenstien or Ut2004. Not something wonderfull, but if you can get 30 FPS in Ut2004 at the highest quality 800x600 you can certainly get acceptable performance for a freaking desktop system!!

If Vista can't run with Aero mode on a GMA 950 there is something seriously seriously wrong. Apple is shipping it's Minis and it's dual core laptops with GMA 950 video and it works great on those.


(oops the formatting got a big goofed.)

 
Good catch, thank you 🙂 From what the OP said, though, it sounds like splurging at least a few dollars for a discrete video card would help. I use a vanilla 6600 in my own work rig.
 
Originally posted by: drag
Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
thats stupid. linux has as many system requiremnets (unless you use flux box ) as xp does and when the new xgl based desktops start coming out it too will require more horse power underneath.
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Actually no.. XGL and such will have pretty much the same hardware requirements as the current X server does. Any video card with OpenGL support should work fine... only very very old or old nvidia cards have no 3d acceleration. It will still run with no acceleration in software render mode. This is one of the design criteria for it.

For example.. a laptop with a ATI 7400 video card should work fine.

Modern full-featured Linux systems themselves generally require as much memory and cpu as XP... Right around 256 megs to 512 for a full featured desktop.

The CPU requirements to run a Linux system is much less though. Everything is modular and you can tailor a machine to suite a specific machine. I use a 500 mhz cpu at work with unaccelerated graphics (no XGL, of course) and 448 megs of RAM and it works fine (which is actually more then I've ever used on this machine so far). I use IceWM http://www.icewm.org/ and that gives me about the same level of functionality as Windows 9x machines.

The same setup ran fine on 200mhz Pentium MMX machines with 64 megs of RAM. Firefox was slow as heck though.

The next step up from something like that would be XFCE, which would probably be comparable to something that is slightly less then Windows 2000 in terms of resource usage. Maybe along the same lines as WinME.

Current KDE and Gnome setups are about the same weight as XP is. There are ongoing optimization efforts underway to reduce that though.

About a 800-1ghz machine with 256-512 megs of RAM is required to operate these things comfortably.


AS far as other operating systems go... in case you don't beleive me.

OS X has had a compositied, 3-D-based graphical display from the start. Their 'Aqua' interface. Very similar to what Microsoft is trying to do with their Areo interface.

Early OS X versions ran comfortably on G3 300mhz machines with 128megs of RAM.

These items had absolutely no hardware acceleration what-so-ever. b(early OS X versions had no support for 3d acceleration, it was all software rendering) These were pure software driven displays and ran fine on 300mhz machines. Not something GREAT, but it ran and was usefull for things.
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oh sorry than. i use gnome and its about the same as xp (except that linux in gerneal uses less ram) so i figured that xgl would be really hardware intensive.
never used os x so i can't comment on that.
 
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