Why Windows 7 is bad

[cheez]

I ran into a lot of troubles...... because of this.

I remote in to a client's PC. it's Windows 7. I click Start on the taskbar. I meant to click something but it clicked "Shut down" button and the computer shut down. Client had no clue wtf is going on and left it turned off. An hour later eventually the client turned the computer on. My remote connection restored. I lost grand total of 2 hours for two clients!!! Bad bad feature! NAUGHTY!

:thumbsdown:

 

[PingSpike]

Windows 8 solves this problem by removing the start menu altogether.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Once upon a time, I remember reading a Star Trek TNG comic strip parody. I don't remember the specifics, but basically, they had replaced the Enterprise computers with macs, and it was all going really well until somebody selected "Weapons->Destroy->Us" instead of "Weapons->Destroy->Them."

I always wish I had a scan of that to post in threads like this. Not a second goes by that somebody in the world isn't kicking themselves because they clicked "Shut Down" or "Don't Save" by mistake.

Anyway, cheez: if you're an admin on your work network, you can change the default to something less unfriendly (like "Log Off") in your group policy settings. If that policy isn't being forced (or you don't have an AD domain) you can change the default by right-clicking on the button in question.

 

[Venom20]

pebcak problems are rough

 

[Mushkins]

You clicked the wrong thing, then you didn't bother to call the client and tell them what was going on, you just waited for them to maybe do something about it?

Doesn't sound like Win7 is the problem here :/ There's only one person who's responsible for that lost two hours...

 

[nickbits]

There is a group policy setting to remove the shut down option. I do that on all remote servers to avoid the situation you just described.

 

[cheez]

Once upon a time, I remember reading a Star Trek TNG comic strip parody. I don't remember the specifics, but basically, they had replaced the Enterprise computers with macs, and it was all going really well until somebody selected "Weapons->Destroy->Us" instead of "Weapons->Destroy->Them."

I always wish I had a scan of that to post in threads like this. Not a second goes by that somebody in the world isn't kicking themselves because they clicked "Shut Down" or "Don't Save" by mistake.

Anyway, cheez: if you're an admin on your work network, you can change the default to something less unfriendly (like "Log Off") in your group policy settings. If that policy isn't being forced (or you don't have an AD domain) you can change the default by right-clicking on the button in question.

Thanks for the laugh. I enjoyed it.

I have to get approval making changes in AD group policy for the domain. Lemme see if I can modify this locally (gpedit).

pebcak problems are rough

Picard!

There is a group policy setting to remove the shut down option. I do that on all remote servers to avoid the situation you just described.

Yeah it sucks. Windows XP is fool proof, so is the Win2003 Server. Hee hee heee heeeee...


cheez

 

[cheez]

You clicked the wrong thing, then you didn't bother to call the client and tell them what was going on, you just waited for them to maybe do something about it?

Doesn't sound like Win7 is the problem here :/ There's only one person who's responsible for that lost two hours...

I kinda exaggerated on the 2 hr thing.

I don't like calling.

I have to put in the damn password on my phone each time I access email or call.... sux a$$.

only because of that reason, I don't call...

 

[Zaap]

Why do I get the feeling this will morph into a rant about Windows Server 2003 and/or a $10,000 ethernet cable?

 

[Nothinman]

You clicked the wrong thing, then you didn't bother to call the client and tell them what was going on, you just waited for them to maybe do something about it?

Doesn't sound like Win7 is the problem here :/ There's only one person who's responsible for that lost two hours...

Pretty much...

 

[cheez]

Why do I get the feeling this will morph into a rant about Windows Server 2003 and/or a $10,000 ethernet cable?

This thread is about Windows 7 being no good. What's this got to do anything with the $10,000 ethernet cable? I don't have it. Why... you wanna buy me one? Please go outside and troll. This is not the place to talk about it here.

Pretty much...

Click Start and the Shut down button is right next to the search field. With network connection sometimes there can be a bit of lag and end up clicking on the wrong thing. This not only happens via remote access but the user him/herself. Some use wireless mouse and the cursor is speed sensitive. They end up clicking the wrong button. This is a design flaw by Microsoft. This is a fail.... fail fail fail.^_^


cheez

 

[Anteaus]

I kinda exaggerated on the 2 hr thing.

I don't like calling.

I have to put in the damn password on my phone each time I access email or call.... sux a$$.

only because of that reason, I don't call...

I would hope that if I was paying someone to do something for me and for whatever reason something went wrong that they would call me. You might not like calling but that's part of the job. It was obviously an innocent mistake, but not calling was a bigger one. How many hours would need to have passed before you actually would have called?

lol ok I'm done picking on you.

 

[Ketchup]

This is no fault of Windows 7. If you don't want to blame yourself, you can blame your slow connection.

Either way, you hit the wrong button. Microsoft has even labeled it for you. Are you the type of person that has never made a mistake in your life?

 

[power_hour]

Thanks for the laugh. Should have sold them new power supplies. muhahahaha ;-)

 

[blackangst1]

You clicked the wrong thing, then you didn't bother to call the client and tell them what was going on, you just waited for them to maybe do something about it?

Doesn't sound like Win7 is the problem here :/ There's only one person who's responsible for that lost two hours...

Yeah this.

Why did you make a new thread and not just update your earlier "Windows 7 sucks" thread?

 

[Nothinman]

Click Start and the Shut down button is right next to the search field. With network connection sometimes there can be a bit of lag and end up clicking on the wrong thing. This not only happens via remote access but the user him/herself. Some use wireless mouse and the cursor is speed sensitive. They end up clicking the wrong button. This is a design flaw by Microsoft. This is a fail.... fail fail fail.^_^

All just rationalizations for your inability to properly operate Windows.

 

[cheez]

I would hope that if I was paying someone to do something for me and for whatever reason something went wrong that they would call me. You might not like calling but that's part of the job. It was obviously an innocent mistake, but not calling was a bigger one. How many hours would need to have passed before you actually would have called?

lol ok I'm done picking on you.

Thanks for picking on me. I appreciate it.^_^

This is no fault of Windows 7. If you don't want to blame yourself, you can blame your slow connection.

Either way, you hit the wrong button. Microsoft has even labeled it for you. Are you the type of person that has never made a mistake in your life?

Actually, this client clicked the "Shut down" button. I didn't do it. She got stuck having no clue wft is going on and called me 30 min later.

Yeah this.

Why did you make a new thread and not just update your earlier "Windows 7 sucks" thread?

I didn't know I had "Windows 7 sucks" thread. I forgot. It's been a long time.

 

[Ketchup]

Actually, this client clicked the "Shut down" button. I didn't do it. She got stuck having no clue wft is going on and called me 30 min later.

I guess I assumed that when you typed:

I meant to click something but it clicked "Shut down" button and the computer shut down.

and

Click Start and the Shut down button is right next to the search field. With network connection sometimes there can be a bit of lag and end up clicking on the wrong thing.

In either case, the fault does not lie with Windows 7.

 

[cheez]

I guess I assumed that when you typed:
blah blah blah meow meow meow zzzzzZZZzzzZZZZzzzzz

Please read carefully. There were two different clients, two different PC's. One of them clicked the shutdown herself and the PC shut down. The other one, I clicked Shut down....

Umm and


In either case, the fault does not lie with Windows 7.

Yes there is a design problem with Windows 7. When the user clicks "Shut down" button from Start, it should prompt the user one of the followings:

1). "Are you sure you want to shut down the computer? If you do so, the computer will really shut down, this is different than logging off the PC. Please make up your mind thx"

2). Give you drop down list: Log off, Shutdown, Restart, Standby


3). "Confirm Shutdown? Yay or Nay?"


With Shutdown button exposed for everyone is not safe. Someone could easily click the shutdown by mistake, losing their productivity. Windows 7 is not productive. Windows 2000 or XP is superior, or Server 2003... or Server 2008.

 

[cheez]

Imagine if a person is hosting an important conference meeting. He wanted to click programs but clicked the shutdown button by accident. This would cause great embarrassment.

Having Shutdown button without prompting confirmation is a big mistake. For your own home use, this might not be a big problem but for business, it is. ha ha lmao

 

[Anteaus]

Imagine if a person is hosting an important conference meeting. He wanted to click programs but clicked the shutdown button by accident. This would cause great embarrassment.

Having Shutdown button without prompting confirmation is a big mistake. For your own home use, this might not be a big problem but for business, it is. ha ha lmao

It is virtually impossible to click shutdown by accident in that situation. Once you click start, Shutdown is far to the right. You have to make an effort to click it. If you are looking for programs you are going up. If you want to shutdown, you have to go right and onto a different panel within the start menu. Unless your mouse sensitivity is through the roof, most people have to move the mouse almost an inch to the right to hit that button. To hit that button inadvertantly, you would need to be A) not paying attention to anything you are doing, or B) aren't knowledgable of the the overall start menu layout.

There is absolutely no problem with the design. MS gives the user the power to configure that button in whatever way they want and there is a drop down right next to it for more options.

My personal belief is that you were rushing and screwed up and that instead of owning it you made a client wait longer than necessary for absolutely no reason. Maybe the client wasn't in a hurry, but it is still a bad habit. Mistakes happen and no one would judge you for it, except here you are trying to persuade people that somehow MS's bad design is responsible. This is based completely on your responses.

Sure, maybe there was some lag in the connection and it inadvertantly caused you to click Shut Down when it wasn't intended. You could have rolled with that and garnered some sympathy, because everyone has connectivity issues now and then and it can definitely do strange things.

I respect your opinion on how the Shutdown button should be configured, but consider that there are plenty of pros out there with arguably far more experience with Windows 7 than you who think it's fine.

 

[Stone Rain]

This isn't a problem with Win7, it's a problem with the user pushing wrong buttons and getting mad when the button they pushed does exactly what it's supposed to do...

 

[compman25]

Imagine if a person is hosting an important conference meeting. He wanted to click programs but clicked the shutdown button by accident. This would cause great embarrassment.

Usually having an IQ over about 80 would solve this problem.

 

[cheez]

It takes no effort for me to click Shutdown button in Win7. It's too easy to do it, which is the problem...

I ain't da only one. The other I.T. fellow who has more experience in just about anything, hit the shutdown button by mistake too!!! The PC shut off. Great.

 

[sm625]

Windows 7 is bad because it has half the same old bugs that XP has. And because it has a folder that never gets used yet consumes 5-15GB... and you cant even move that folder. Who cares about accidental clicks? The more they try to code for it the more accidental clicks it would promote. at least this way it wont happen agian.