why was it right for the colonies to secede from britain...

[bigalt]

Flashman posed this question to numerous people in Angel of the Lord.

The only one to give him a straight answer was Lincoln, and his answer was, "The colonies succeeded. The south didn't."

But I thought it was an interesting question, anyway.

 

[DAGTA]

It's all about perspective on history. "The winner writes history." Lincoln's quote is appropriate, too.

 

[GasX]

In a nutshell:

The colonies decided to go off on their own and fought and won their independance.

The South decided to go off on their own and fought and lost.

 

[imported_yovonbishop]

hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

 

[Gunslinger08]

US seceded from Britain because of taxation without representation and for harsh taxing and political acts.

The South seceded because of economic and political disagreements with Northern reps/senators and issues over the use of slave labor (minor reason that is blown up by history).

Britain was tyrannical, so the colonies rightly seceded.
The South seceded because of different economic environments - industrial in the North, agricultural in the South. Congress can't make everyone happy, and the South took it too far.

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

The Civil War was a state's sovereignty war. The south ceded over the interpretation of the constitution.

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: Gnote

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

The Civil War was a state's sovereignty war. The south ceded over the interpretation of the constitution.

funny you should say that, because he was also jibing about how the constitution was written so poorly that people are still bickering over how to interperet it 😉

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

Lemme guess... Educated in our fine public schools?

Slavery was NOT the real issue. States' rights were, & slavery was just one of the rights they wanted.

Viper GTS

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

Lemme guess... Educated in our fine public schools?

Slavery was NOT the real issue. States' rights were, & slavery was just one of the rights they wanted.

Viper GTS

nod, lincoln said that he would gladly let slavery continue if that alone would keep the union together.

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

Lemme guess... Educated in our fine public schools?

Slavery was NOT the real issue. States' rights were, & slavery was just one of the rights they wanted.

Viper GTS

Slavery only became an issue once the North began to lose the war. Lincoln needed something to bolster the Union's war effort, so he brought slavery into it and moralized the war. Thus, the Union winning.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: bigalt

Originally posted by: Gnote

Originally posted by: yovonbishop
hm, well I think the colonies had a right to secede because Britain was being unjust by taxing them and trying to control them. The South could've seceded but for what? Slavery and immorality? It really is all about perspective. For those who find nothing to be wrong with slavery will probably see no difference between the secession of the colonies from Britain and the secession of the South from the Union.

The Civil War was a state's sovereignty war. The south ceded over the interpretation of the constitution.

funny you should say that, because he was also jibing about how the constitution was written so poorly that people are still bickering over how to interperet it 😉

Was written like that on purpose. If it was written any less vaguely, it would be hard to apply in modern times... it would also be a thousand pages long.

 

[andylawcc]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Britain was tyrannical, so the colonies rightly seceded.
The South seceded because of different economic environments - industrial in the North, agricultural in the South. Congress can't make everyone happy, and the South took it too far.

"tryanny" is on the eye of victor. History is also subsequently written by them too.

 

[Chadder007]

Ive heard several historians here in the South say it was about Economics and that the South was being improperly represented in the government. Also that the North was taxing the South too much and living off the welfare of the Southerners.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: bigalt
The only one to give him a straight answer was Lincoln, and his answer was, "The colonies succeeded. The south didn't."

Funny because that was my exact thought upon reading the title of this thread!

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
US seceded from Britain because of taxation without representation and for harsh taxing and political acts.

The South seceded because of economic and political disagreements with Northern reps/senators and issues over the use of slave labor (minor reason that is blown up by history).

Britain was tyrannical, so the colonies rightly seceded.
The South seceded because of different economic environments - industrial in the North, agricultural in the South. Congress can't make everyone happy, and the South took it too far.

still doesn't answer the original question.

lincolns answer was best. colonies succeeded, south didn't.

might makes right always has probably always will.