Why Trumpanzees are angry..

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/14/the-newest-online-dating-minefield-did-you-vote-for-trump/

The newest online dating minefield: Did you vote for Trump?

How’s Bill Maher for a relationship test?

Julie Spira of Marina del Rey wanted to watch Maher’s cable political talk show. Her boyfriend “didn’t want to watch anything with a liberal slant,” she said.

Politics went from being rarely discussed to causing a major schism between the liberal Spira and her partner, who wished President Donald Trump a happy birthday on social media. The couple –who had fallen in love at first sight, spent seven years together, broken up and then re-connected — went their separate ways shortly after Inauguration Day.

The Trump era’s effect on romance is something Spira, a dating expert, has seen in her professional capacity. Today, wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat at a bar might get you a free drink – or get one thrown in your face.

Trump’s election “has polarized the nation in general. Naturally it’s spilled over into the dating world,” said Jonathan Alpert, a Manhattan-based psychotherapist and author on how to keep politics from ruining your relationship.

“(Trump) is a word that just brings out so many emotions in people,” he said.

Once well behind other attributes, politics is now a more important factor in choosing someone to date. Since July 2016, women’s interest in politics rose more than 43 percent, according to the matchmaking site eHarmony, and men who mention politics in their profile get 12.9 percent of their matches to start talking as opposed to 4.9 percent for those who don’t.

After Election Day 2016 and Inauguration Day last year, eHarmony saw a 35 percent increase in membership.

“People are reacting to the Trump presidency with the same intensity as they did after 9/11,” eHarmony CEO Grant Langston said in a company report. “We all just want human connection, especially during difficult times.”

Political profiles
Many singles with strong feelings on politics are up front about it on their online profiles.

“More often than not, I’m seeing people saying, ‘Swipe left if you voted for Trump,’” Spiria said, referring to the practice on the mobile dating app Tinder of rejecting a potential match.

The influence of the #MeToo movement, which calls attention to sexual harassment and assault, cannot be ignored, Spira said. For many women, Trump — who was recorded boasting about groping women and employed a White House aide who recently resigned after allegations surfaced that he beat two former wives — represents everything misogynistic about modern culture.

There are even dating sites catering to Trump supporters or haters.

“Making Dating Great Again” is the motto of trumpsingles.com, which seeks to connect supporters of America’s 45th president.

“If people are being demonized for their views and having a hard time on their dates, we wanted to take that whole part of it out,” founder David Goss told the New York Daily News.

For Trump haters, the app “Dating, Eh?” promises to help Americans “find the perfect Canadian partner to save them from the horror of a Trump presidency,” according to its website.

‘Us-against-them thinking’
Partisan antipathy reached new heights leading to Trump’s election. A 2016 Pew Research Center study found that 55 percent of Democrats said the GOP makes them “afraid” while 49 percent of Republicans said the same thing about the Democratic Party.

Narrowed to those who vote regularly or donate or volunteer for political campaigns, 70 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of Republicans expressed fear of the other party, according to Pew.

That division carries over into the dating world, said Bill Eddy, a mediator and president of the San Diego-based High Conflict Institute.

“The Trump era has increased us-against-them thinking, bragging, being angry and creating your own reality,” he said. “It’s made people more narrow in who they will date. (They say) ‘I’ll never date a Democrat!’ or ‘I’ll never date a Trump Republican!’”

Dating across party lines
Recent data from the dating site Match.com, however, offer hope that love conquers all, including the partisan divide.

Roughly seven in 10 singles said they would cross party lines to date, and singles were more apathetic about a partner’s voting habits last year compared to 2015.

In 2017, 45 percent of singles said they would try to understand the other person’s perspective, 41 percent would tell their date politely that they disagreed while 5 percent would leave the date immediately, Match.com reported.

“Fifty-four percent of singles think the current political climate makes it more important to find out about a potential partner’s overall political views,” Match.com’s survey found. “But when it comes to the first date … 23 percent are willing to ask.”

As for Spira, she’s found someone she’s politically compatible with.

And yes, they watch Bill Maher together.

Roses are red, she voted blue
In a relationship with a political opposite? Dating expert Julie Spira has some advice.

Set a timer. Establish a certain period – say, 15 minutes – to talk politics and keep track with a timer. When time’s up, shift to another topic or activity you both enjoy.

Avoid social media. Limit posting your political opinions online. “It will upset your partner by seeing your opinion publicly,” Spira said.

Don’t ignore it. Pretending like you don’t have different political views is not the answer. “Take the time for a healthy debate,” Spira said. “Have a healthy debate on a particular subject because that one particular subject, you might actually agree on. If not, then you need to agree to disagree and move on.”
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I've seen a few Trumpanzees I would do with enough tequila.. but not many.
 
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Eh, I think it's just sad in this day that talking politics seems to be one of the only topics of conversation that people can muster while at home.

Whatever happened to just discussing other shit and hobbies?
 

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Eh, I think it's just sad in this day that talking politics seems to be one of the only topics of conversation that people can muster while at home.

Whatever happened to just discussing other shit and hobbies?

When the government is stable, people need not concern themselves with politics so much. When the government is not stable, people really need to pay attention to hopefully avoid disaster.

It seems to me our government is currently in a state of instability coming from the top. We are in a unique moment in American history. Politics SHOULD dominate conversations. We need to talk about this stuff as painful and uncomfortable as that might be sometimes.

During WWII, people didn’t talk much about other shit and hobbies I’d speculate. They probably talked about the fucking world at war. Perhaps if more assertive talking was done in Germany prior to Hitler’s belligerence, many lives would have been spared. Fascism didn’t take hold because it was strong. It won out in Germany because democracy was weak.
 
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When the government is stable, people need not concern themselves with politics so much. When the government is not stable, people really need to pay attention to hopefully avoid disaster.

I kind of agree with this, kinda not. IMO most governments will end up disappearing entirely up their own arses in at least some respects if the people don't pay attention. Probably along the lines of too much time spent hobnobbing with rich people, not enough time spent seeing what life is like for the people in society who need the most help.
 

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Eh, I think it's just sad in this day that talking politics seems to be one of the only topics of conversation that people can muster while at home.

Whatever happened to just discussing other shit and hobbies?

Would you date a person who believed the earth was flat? Dating "most" Trump supporters goes beyond politics. It goes to the core of whether the person you are dating has the ability to analyze stuff and discern bullshit. That is something you need in a partner.
 
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I’m sure this only applies to Guys. Hot Women are exempted from nearly any behavior. You may not tolerate it for more than a night or two but they can get away with nearly anything.
Only one I turned away for being crazy was a girl I met who started going deep into conspiracy stuff. When I was pretty confident I heard the N word come from her I checked out.
 

Viper1j

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Looking at trump singles is like looking at a cup of rice in a Styrofoam cup in a snowstorm.

Total white out. I thought there where blacks that supported Donny.

"See my African American over there?"
 

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Would you date a person who believed the earth was flat? It goes to the core of whether the person you are dating has the ability to analyze stuff and discern bullshit. That is something you need in a partner.

Snipped to suit what I wanted to respond to.

Believing that the earth is flat doesn't necessarily have any detrimental effect on anything relevant to a relationship, mainly because it's not a belief borne of hate. Believing that Mexicans are rapists definitely does, and it definitely is a belief borne of hate.

I could date a religious person, no problem. However I'd have problems dating a religious believer or flat-earther who thinks that science is some sort of conspiracy to blind people from the truth. Same goes for any political position that buys heavily into conspiracy theories and/or bigotry especially while ignoring evidence to the contrary.

Admittedly I have never met any flat-earthers, I could be incorrect and they're all serious crackpots, but I could see a potential for someone to believe that the earth is flat in the same way that they believe in God without necessarily believing that the earth is 6000 years old or evolution must be wrong.
 
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Snipped to suit what I wanted to response to.

Believing that the earth is flat doesn't necessarily have any detrimental effect on anything relevant to a relationship, mainly because it's not a belief borne of hate. Believing that Mexicans are rapists definitely does, and it definitely is a belief borne of hate.

I could date a religious person, no problem. However I'd have problems dating a religious believer or flat-earther who thinks that science is some sort of conspiracy to blind people from the truth. Same goes for any political position that buys heavily into conspiracy theories and/or bigotry especially while ignoring evidence to the contrary.

Admittedly I have never met any flat-earthers, I could be incorrect and they're all serious crackpots, but I could see a potential for someone to believe that the earth is flat in the same way that they believe in God without necessarily believing that the earth is 6000 years old or evolution must be wrong.

Yeah no. If someone *really believes* in flat earth they have such an abject disconnect with basic scientific principals it's bound to seep into other parts of their personality. There's a lot of people out there. You can afford to be picky on some things.
 

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I definitely could never date a Trump supporter. Sex would be impossible. I can't keep my dick hard inside a literal pile of excrement.
 
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Yeah no. If someone *really believes* in flat earth they have such an abject disconnect with basic scientific principals it's bound to seep into other parts of their personality. There's a lot of people out there. You can afford to be picky on some things.

That's kind of what I meant - I just don't know whether there are "playful sceptics" out there, someone who would with a smile on their face, say, "but do you really know?", and if so, that's the group of people I meant that I could potentially date because many things that most sensible consider to be facts are not things they haven't in-person witnessed sufficient evidence, and it's worth brain-twisting people sometimes.

The die-hard fanatics though are the types who'd believe that there's a conspiracy to keep humanity from the truth and all the science can't be trusted etc, and I'd have a hard time dating one of those for the reasons we've already specified.
 

Viper1j

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Doesn't count as incel. Volcel?

Nope, doesn't count. Marriages/relationships are more than just sex. Aside from communication and intimacy, it's also about parentage. if you've ever seen this..

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Or this..
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You might start to get a clue.

Is that really the kind of female you want bearing/raising your offspring? Regardless of how hot she may be?
 
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glenn1

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Looking at trump singles is like looking at a cup of rice in a Styrofoam cup in a snowstorm.

Total white out. I thought there where blacks that supported Donny.

"See my African American over there?"

Considering the response rate for colored peoples (especially African-Americans) on dating sites is far lower than for whites that's probably just cutting through the clutter.
 

Viper1j

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Really? I'm a "charter member" of match.com. I was on the site, back in the days when it was a free site, and users had what was called a "shell account" to get online. There was no Internet Explorer, Firefox, Opera, or pick your browser.

When they finally went to a pay site, I and the rest of the first hundred people to sign up were told they would have full lifetime memberships. I hid my profile when I was married, so I didn't show up. My account will be good in perpetuity, I even have it in my will for my grandson.

I also belong to Tinder, Bumbler, Mingle and a few others. I see many, many African-Americans on those sites. No, Trumpsingles is an anomaly.
 

thraashman

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Foul! Excrement isn't allowed to vote. The word you're looking for is 'figurative'.
I'm aware that figurative is technically correct, but I'm intentionally misusing literal as is the popular fashion when wanting to convey a strong sentiment.
 

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I know a few women that say they don't wanna have Trumper boyfriends and babies. Thought it was just a local thing since I'm in NYC.
 

glenn1

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I know a few women that say they don't wanna have Trumper boyfriends and babies. Thought it was just a local thing since I'm in NYC.

Might be easier and more useful if the dating sites had you rate yourself on how strongly you feel about politics (with any political viewpoint) on a scale of 1-10. Anyone on the upper end of that scale is likely not dateable no matter what political views they hold.
 

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Trump support at this point is basically a proxy for "are you an asshole and/or ignoramus" so it makes sense that no one wants to date them (male or female).

All the good people I know who supported him abandoned ship long ago.
 

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The main problem with dating a Trump supporter: if they're okay with Trump, they don't see sexual assault, bigotry, lying and overt corruption as deal breakers. That's bad for any would-be partner, let alone any potential kids.
 

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Trump is full of revulsion and disgust and those are contagious. The repulsive and disgusting are attracted to and want to wallow in it and the rest of us flee from a natural gag reflex. Trump makes disgust disgusting because he mirrors it.
 

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Might be easier and more useful if the dating sites had you rate yourself on how strongly you feel about politics (with any political viewpoint) on a scale of 1-10. Anyone on the upper end of that scale is likely not dateable no matter what political views they hold.
Need to be more specific. If on the lower end it might mean they don't vote at all.