Why the US should attack Iraq

[etech]

"both are Muslim fundamentalists"

Saddam is not a fundamentalist. He uses the religion when it suits him but I don't think you can say he is religious.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: etech
"both are Muslim fundamentalists"

Saddam is not a fundamentalist. He uses the religion when it suits him but I don't think you can say he is religious.

You are correct. In fact #3 of the Islamic Fundie hate list behind the West (mainly the US) and Israel would be Hussien.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: Atlantean
yeah good idea attack Iraq, then knowing that our attention is elsewhere, get attacked by North Korea... sounds like a great plan.

If North Korea remotely did anything actually threaten like attacking, they have 40,000 U.S Troops Stationed in South Korea. Just incase you didnt notice, we also have South Korea and Tawian on our side in that area. There is plenty of politcal backing on the 'korea' issuse, and of course militarly. I give you a A on the article.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: hagbard The CIA and other intelligence agencies have already denied there is any truth to the al Qauda - Iraqi connection. The Bush administration is pushing them to create a link that doesn't exist. My verdict: propaganda.

1. they are both terrorists 2. both have purposely killed civilians 3. both hate Israel 4. both hate the US 5. both are Muslim fundamentalists 6. Al-qaeda has the international manpower and motivation of Muslims worldwide, and the funding. Hussein has the chemical, biological weapons they need. And if he develops/is developing nuclear weapons, Al-qaeda now has a friendly source of nuclear weapons. Iraq may well have nuclear weapons today if we didn't attack him in the Gulf War and if Israel didn't destroy their nuclear reactor facility in 1981. and even if there is no link, that still doesn't take away the need for removing Hussein! Iraq can still be a threat on its own (as it has towards Israel, Iran, Kuwait, and the Kurds)

Lemme see

Point 1

No

Point 2

Yes

Point 3

Saddam- Maybe. Probably more pragmatic about them than anything else, meaning he does not care for them, but they are normally irrelevent

Al Queda- yes

Point 4

Yes, more and more.

Point 5

No

Point 6

NK doesnt like us, therefore they must be helping Al Queda, because everyone who does not think like us is against us and therefore a terrorist.
Argument does not work.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: Thera
Aside from all the incorrect facts it's well written. I can see that Rush has a big influence on you.

You have a good future as either a liar or a politician, if there's any difference.

negative, computer programmer/engineer for me. haha arguing politics and economics online is just a pasttime

Good! Then you have all your sources cited. Please post your article with all citations listed.

We'll have a good spirited argument. I'm looking forward to it. I'll check back in a few hours.

 

[alexruiz]

Originally posted by: Thera
Aside from all the incorrect facts it's well written. I can see that Rush has a big influence on you.

You have a good future as either a liar or a politician, if there's any difference.

Even better, his brightest future is as sheep voter..... beee, beee. Yes, your supreme majesty, your word is truth!!

I would love to be a politician having this guy under my command..... brainwashed voters, the dream of any governant..... not even Machiavello would have dreamt about it... The perfect monarchy!!!

I said before, I will say it again: A true patriot is the person that loves his/her country and tries to make it a better place, even if that involves being critic of the goverment. When a person believes blindly what the goverment says, that is not called patriotism, that is called FANATISM. Heil Bush!!!

 

[308nato]

Originally posted by: Colt45
hope you're on the first wave

There's going to be an amphibious landing ??????

:Q

 

[308nato]

Originally posted by: alexruiz

Originally posted by: Thera
Aside from all the incorrect facts it's well written. I can see that Rush has a big influence on you.

You have a good future as either a liar or a politician, if there's any difference.

Even better, his brightest future is as sheep voter..... beee, beee. Yes, your supreme majesty, your word is truth!!

I would love to be a politician having this guy under my command..... brainwashed voters, the dream of any governant..... not even Machiavello would have dreamt about it... The perfect monarchy!!!

I said before, I will say it again: A true patriot is the person that loves his/her country and tries to make it a better place, even if that involves being critic of the goverment. When a person believes blindly what the goverment says, that is not called patriotism, that is called FANATISM. Heil Bush!!!

That is one of the biggest loads of crap I have seen on here.

Because someone agrees with a position does not mean they are following it blindly. You don't have the slightest clue about what you are talking about or what Patriotism is.

You don't even f@cking know what a sheep says. Its baaa..baaa..baaa - not bee..bee..bee.

You should have your @ss Heiled right into the real world so you can learn something you didn't raed on a message board.

 

[Evadman]

Why the US should attack Iraq

Because we have extra bombs. Next question please.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Why the US should attack Iraq

Because we have extra bombs. Next question please.

A more rational reason than most.

 

[FrancesBeansRevenge]

Originally posted by: hagbard
This statement alone discounts the validity of the entire article:

And let's not forget ties to Al-Qaeda. There is ample evidence of Al-Qaeda and Iraqi officials meeting, confirmed by non-biased sources. Many Iraqi officials have trained Al-Qaeda and radical Islamic terrorist groups. Hussein and these terrorists share a common goal: the extermination of the US, Israel, and the "infidel" world. Al-Qaeda has the motivation we?ve seen for the past ten years, and Iraq has the weapons they will need.

The CIA and other intelligence agencies have already denied there is any truth to the al Qauda - Iraqi connection. The Bush administration is pushing them to create a link that doesn't exist. My verdict: propaganda.


Here is a much better article by Republican representive Ron Paul:

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Indeed hagbard.

Kind of like all the articles you linked to in another thread talking about an 'oil pipeline' in the 'Stan are to be dismissed as propaganda as there is NO OIL pipeline (oh wait thats right we must be patient because it IS coming like your all knowing broker claims... perhaps xagent also got his info from HIS all knowing broker over coffee. Let me guess your broker is more credible than his broker? hehehehe )
One would hope you are reading the articles you link as proof of evil US intentions with an equally skeptical eye.... watching for any inconsistancy or assertion that can't be proved and dismissing
the whole article as a result.

Somehow I doubt it.

 

[QTPie]

IMHO, GW Bush takes it too personal. US has a very weak case against Iraq. IMHO, GW Bush wants to attack Iraq bcuz Saddam tried to assasinate his father.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider

Originally posted by: Evadman

Why the US should attack Iraq

Because we have extra bombs. Next question please.

A more rational reason than most.

I decided not to argue in this thread. Has Iraq done this, did they not do that, b!tch, moan, UN resolutions, Terror, WMD, Smoking gun... whatever.

Ok, Iraq is at least a pain in the ass and everyone knows it. is it worth going to war over? Maybe, maybe not. I look at tit his way... We have test ranges for ordinance all over the US and Guam. Why not just relocate that testing to Iraq? The high-ups in the military still get to test their newest weapons, while thr grunts get to blow sh!t up. On top of that, we can get rid of the 2000lb gravity bombs we have left over form past wars. Do this and everyone is happy! People in the Southwest and Guam no longer have to watch where they step lest they step, tHe highups get testing, and the grunts get to make things go boom! Well, everyone is happy except Iraq. To make an omlete you have to break a few eggs... Might as well be Iraq's eggs.

 

[alexruiz]

Originally posted by: 308nato

That is one of the biggest loads of crap I have seen on here.

Because someone agrees with a position does not mean they are following it blindly. You don't have the slightest clue about what you are talking about or what Patriotism is.

You don't even f@cking know what a sheep says. Its baaa..baaa..baaa - not bee..bee..bee.

You should have your @ss Heiled right into the real world so you can learn something you didn't raed on a message board.

If you think that is cr@p, is because your brain is full of it. You are providing NO reason or argument here, only offensive phrases. Get a real argument, base or reason and come back!!

If you agree with something, you have assesed ALL the options and asked for answers to all the questions, which obviously was not the case here (the questions were not even asked), so it is blind support.

Clue about what I am talking??? I read news from at least 10 sources, from the BBC to Pravda, to my country's news PLUS the USA media..... that is sitting on top of the fence. I'll bet you don't even watch your local station.

Patrotism, well, if your definiton of patriotic is saying "let's kick the cr@p out of whoever we want", you are right, I am not. I would do it UNTIL I see the hard evidence, analyze the fact and their WEIGHT and contrast them to the other versions. Tell me what is the meaning of "being patrotic".....

Sheeps in my country say "bee... beeeee.... beeee", so you can take your "baaa.. baaa.. baaa" and st!ck it in largest cavity of your body (not your mouth for sure)

Real world??? The real world has 70% of the people wishing to have food.... Living in a rich country makes you spoiled, but it doesn't mean you have to be a fvcking retarded. Real world has values an ethics. Open your mind the same way you open your @ss....... "Yes, Mr. president, you can fvck me. That is how I will prove my patriotism....."

Grow up!!!

 

[xagent]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: Thera


Good! Then you have all your sources cited. Please post your article with all citations listed.

We'll have a good spirited argument. I'm looking forward to it. I'll check back in a few hours.

umm not sure if I have all my sources saved, but here are some. and a lot of it was just knowledge i've gained from watching TV, reading papers, posting at political forums and websites... i read political editorials and news everyday:



http://newsbatch.com/iraq.htm
http://special.fco.gov.uk/background/iraqcbw.shtml
http://www.uspolicy.be/Issues/Iraq/fsmyths&facts.080200.htm
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mf21.html
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002391
several articles at http://www.frontpagemag.com ... http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Search/advresults.asp
several articles at World Net Daily
http://www.newsmax.com

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: Thera


Good! Then you have all your sources cited. Please post your article with all citations listed.

We'll have a good spirited argument. I'm looking forward to it. I'll check back in a few hours.

umm not sure if I have all my sources saved, but here are some. and a lot of it was just knowledge i've gained from watching TV, reading papers, posting at political forums and websites... i read political editorials and news everyday:



http://newsbatch.com/iraq.htm
http://special.fco.gov.uk/background/iraqcbw.shtml
http://www.uspolicy.be/Issues/Iraq/fsmyths&facts.080200.htm
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mf21.html
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002391
several articles at http://www.frontpagemag.com ... http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Search/advresults.asp
several articles at World Net Daily
http://www.newsmax.com

Nice. I like the headlines on some of your websites. Here's a few...

"The Leftist Plot to Control America's Young Minds"
"The Islamic Enemy Within"
"Who Pays For These Demonstrations?"
"Help Stop Jesse Jackson"
"Hillary Tainted by Bin Laden Cash?"
"Ex-abortionists expose America's greatest scandal"

Those are some pretty good facts. I'm not sure if you're actually serious, or if you're just joking. Anyway... here's another website you can use for your future work. Check it out.

 

[Hamburgerpimp]

For those in favor of war, start loading the boats!

 

[Atlantean]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: Atlantean
yeah good idea attack Iraq, then knowing that our attention is elsewhere, get attacked by North Korea... sounds like a great plan.

If North Korea remotely did anything actually threaten like attacking, they have 40,000 U.S Troops Stationed in South Korea. Just incase you didnt notice, we also have South Korea and Tawian on our side in that area. There is plenty of politcal backing on the 'korea' issuse, and of course militarly. I give you a A on the article.

Remember that North Korea does have "the bomb", whats to stop them from using it? They are already pissed off at the states and do you think 40,000 troops will really be able to hold off an attack? They don't have to attack US soil to attack the States, they can attack the 40,000 troops that are stationed in North Korea. Just my own thoughts on the matter of course, but I don't think that attacking Iraq is the best idea at this point in time. George W Bush is like a puppet doing what his daddy wants him to do...

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Hamburgerpimp
For those in favor of war, start loading the boats!

Already served my time. Set off the coast of Libya for 24 hours on a destroyer when Ghaddfi was feeling frisky. I believe he was trying to extend his territorial limits so far out that shipping would have been cut off. The US Navy convinced him that was a bad idea. We sat just outside of the internationally recognized territorial limit and waited to see if he would do anything. He didn't but it was just a little bit nerve wracking just setting their waiting to be shot at.

Went on alert when the Iranians took our diplomats hostage but had just returned from a cruise and didn?t have to go back over.

You're welcome.

 

[Evadman]

Already served my time. Set off the coast of Libya for 24 hours on a destroyer when Ghaddfi was feeling frisky. I believe he was trying to extend his territorial limits so far out that shipping would have been cut off. The US Navy convinced him that was a bad idea. We sat just outside of the internationally recognized territorial limit and waited to see if he would do anything. He didn't but it was just a little bit nerve wracking just setting their waiting to be shot at.

Went on alert when the Iranians took our diplomats hostage but had just returned from a cruise and didn?t have to go back over.

You're welcome.

Thank You.

 

[xagent]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: xagent

Originally posted by: Thera


Good! Then you have all your sources cited. Please post your article with all citations listed.

We'll have a good spirited argument. I'm looking forward to it. I'll check back in a few hours.

umm not sure if I have all my sources saved, but here are some. and a lot of it was just knowledge i've gained from watching TV, reading papers, posting at political forums and websites... i read political editorials and news everyday:



http://newsbatch.com/iraq.htm
http://special.fco.gov.uk/background/iraqcbw.shtml
http://www.uspolicy.be/Issues/Iraq/fsmyths&facts.080200.htm
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/myths/mf21.html
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002391
several articles at http://www.frontpagemag.com ... http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Search/advresults.asp
several articles at World Net Daily
http://www.newsmax.com

Nice. I like the headlines on some of your websites. Here's a few...

"The Leftist Plot to Control America's Young Minds"
"The Islamic Enemy Within"
"Who Pays For These Demonstrations?"
"Help Stop Jesse Jackson"
"Hillary Tainted by Bin Laden Cash?"
"Ex-abortionists expose America's greatest scandal"

Those are some pretty good facts. I'm not sure if you're actually serious, or if you're just joking. Anyway... here's another website you can use for your future work. Check it out.

fuck stormfront, it's an anti-semitic, racist neo-Nazi site. I'm not white or Christian or Jewish by the way. Stormfront is not conservative or right-leaning by any means. Unless of course, you buy into the liberal propaganda that says simply being racist can make you right-leaning even if you want to take guns away from minorities, take away the free-market, hate America/Israel, want high taxes, etc..

And if you knew anything about Jesse Jackson and his pal Al Sharpton, you'd realize they're just race baiters. Ready to jump on the spot when a white kills a black, but ignore the much higher number of black on black or black on white crimes. They're always playign the oppressed victim card. And now they want reparations hahahha when they were never slaves, half the country fought to free their ancestors, and they are only enjoying their luxurious lifestyles because of their ancestors hard work, as opposed to running shirtless with AIDS in Africa.

i don't see how any of the other headlines are anything bad except for Islamic Enemy Within, and even thats not anti-islamic, it's anti-radical Islam and anti-all the moderate Muslims and liberals who support/ignore the fundamentalists. And you pulled those headlines off the only 2 right-wing websites I gave you, frontpagemag and wnd.com. The rest were all government websites, educational organizations, and one was an article written by Joe Lieberman at the Wall Street Journal.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: alexruiz

Originally posted by: 308nato

That is one of the biggest loads of crap I have seen on here.

Because someone agrees with a position does not mean they are following it blindly. You don't have the slightest clue about what you are talking about or what Patriotism is.

You don't even f@cking know what a sheep says. Its baaa..baaa..baaa - not bee..bee..bee.

You should have your @ss Heiled right into the real world so you can learn something you didn't raed on a message board.

If you think that is cr@p, is because your brain is full of it. You are providing NO reason or argument here, only offensive phrases. Get a real argument, base or reason and come back!!

If you agree with something, you have assesed ALL the options and asked for answers to all the questions, which obviously was not the case here (the questions were not even asked), so it is blind support.

Clue about what I am talking??? I read news from at least 10 sources, from the BBC to Pravda, to my country's news PLUS the USA media..... that is sitting on top of the fence. I'll bet you don't even watch your local station.

Patrotism, well, if your definiton of patriotic is saying "let's kick the cr@p out of whoever we want", you are right, I am not. I would do it UNTIL I see the hard evidence, analyze the fact and their WEIGHT and contrast them to the other versions. Tell me what is the meaning of "being patrotic".....

Sheeps in my country say "bee... beeeee.... beeee", so you can take your "baaa.. baaa.. baaa" and st!ck it in largest cavity of your body (not your mouth for sure)

Real world??? The real world has 70% of the people wishing to have food.... Living in a rich country makes you spoiled, but it doesn't mean you have to be a fvcking retarded. Real world has values an ethics. Open your mind the same way you open your @ss....... "Yes, Mr. president, you can fvck me. That is how I will prove my patriotism....."

Grow up!!!

Sounds more like you just hate anyone who disagrees with you. Funny how people say that anyone who disagrees with them are just blindly following someone else. Have you ever thought that people may have looked at evidence that you might have missed?

 

[Arkaign]

Hmm, you know I don't think this would be a good idea somehow.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

this war will pay for itself

 

[SonnyDaze]

Wow necro thread like a mofo!!