Raduque
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If you put a fan in a phone, the phone will fail more often.
Phones right now are designed to function even when running hot. I have no doubt the major phone OEMs will compromise the devices ability to run passive with a fan in the design, which will result in more dead phones. The fan will ingest every last tiny piece of lint and hair in a users pocket and will choke. The the SoC will overheat and eventually let the magic smoke out.
Phones must stay with passive cooling for a multitude of reasons.
Phones right now are designed to function even when running hot. I have no doubt the major phone OEMs will compromise the devices ability to run passive with a fan in the design, which will result in more dead phones. The fan will ingest every last tiny piece of lint and hair in a users pocket and will choke. The the SoC will overheat and eventually let the magic smoke out.
Phones must stay with passive cooling for a multitude of reasons.
The fan doesnt need to run in your pocket, it just needs to run when you're gaming. And if it collects dust just blow it out with your mouth.
spacejamz
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Red Storm
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Unfortunately for you, active cooling for phones is never going to take off. Never. You'll just have to wait for graphics capabilities to get better.
Cakefish
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Even a portable gaming console, the PS Vita, lacks a cooling fan.
Too few people exist that are interested in buying such a device.
Too few people exist that are interested in buying such a device.
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That's why the PS vita is a piece of shit and they won't make another one.
Many people want mobile gaming to evolve, they enjoy having everything literally in the palm of their hands and relaxing on their bed or wherever rather than sitting statically in the same position in front of a PC screen. In fact most people do. They just aren't vocal about it. The majority of gamers are mobile gamers.
If you include people playing Angry Birds and Game of War, then yes, that's true.
Active cooling in a phone would be utterly insane.
Active cooling in a phone would be utterly insane.
I don't think active cooling is ever desired on a mobile device that is going to take daily abuse and shocks.
The best thing to do is to buy the newest flagship as game manufacturers will always target n-1 performance at the most. So the 6S will rip apart any game today since the target device is going to be the 6 at the most to maximize revenue.
Same thing for the S5 - it's a 18 month old phone (basically like having an iPhone 5S). Using say a S6 or Note 5 will handle games today easily since the target SOC will be something like the S801 to S805. The only time it chugs is when benchmarks are run on native 2K resolution which no game will actually use.
The below app is also pretty interesting from a game tuning POV:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...me-way-to-scale-any-games-resolution-and-fps/
The best thing to do is to buy the newest flagship as game manufacturers will always target n-1 performance at the most. So the 6S will rip apart any game today since the target device is going to be the 6 at the most to maximize revenue.
Same thing for the S5 - it's a 18 month old phone (basically like having an iPhone 5S). Using say a S6 or Note 5 will handle games today easily since the target SOC will be something like the S801 to S805. The only time it chugs is when benchmarks are run on native 2K resolution which no game will actually use.
The below app is also pretty interesting from a game tuning POV:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...me-way-to-scale-any-games-resolution-and-fps/
They don't and wont because you're literally the only person I've ever heard request this, and no one gives a shit about you.
How rude.
I've seen lots of people complain about heat and throttling in phones. They might not specifically ask for active fan-based cooling, they just demand a solution without caring about the specifics.
I agree with zaza, overall. Though there might be an alternative solution to active cooling, the heat throttling is a real issue, and the first manufacturer to fix it effectively will have the best high-performance phone at the time.
It's funny how things change, I remember before the nexus 4 people were laughing at the idea of heating being an issue in a phone. I also remember how people laughed at the active cooling fans used in the first Pentium CPU, as previous CPU were all passive cooled.
Times change.
Raduque
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That's not how it works.
Specifically, what are you running that it throttles and gets super hot with? That's one thing I haven't seen my phone actually do is throttle.
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Waaaaaa, you big baby. The industry is looking for thinner, lighter, better battery life, more durable - everyone may want cooler running cpus, but slapping fans on isn't the solution, better cpu designs are. Yes, they'll work on ways to dissipate heat, but fans? On a phone? That's just dumb, sorry for being rude but it just is.
How think do you guys want your phones? OP just has a shitty old phone, that's why his gaming sucks.
This generation of android phones have issues, I have the s6 and it does over heat. But the solution is not fans, the solution is better SOC design. the snapdragon of this generation's just embarrassing too. Haven't heard of iPhones overheating, more cores isn't the answer
The Lumia 950 XL is liquid cooled.
There isn't a lot of room for fans in phones. Companies already try to squeeze as much space out for other components and often compromise on things like battery capacity to do so.
There isn't a lot of room for fans in phones. Companies already try to squeeze as much space out for other components and often compromise on things like battery capacity to do so.
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The 950 is as well (it carries the 808, not the XL'x 810). I'm curious to see how much this actually helps out, but it'll also be tough to prove (because we might not totally know what about tempt/load differences will be helped by the OS vs. the liquid cooling vs. general design). Still, I'm hoping we soon get someone trying to burn down a house with a One (M9) while pushing the 950 XL (same 810 SoC) at the same time.
If I remember what I read correctly, the SP4 is carrying a larger version of what the phones are (rather, the phones are carrying a smaller version of what the SP4 is). It's supposed to give the devices two paths to disperse heat, so maybe it'll help.
My 920 cooks like crazy. After 3 years, its battery life is toast as well. Just browsing on LTE on the thing, it gets hot. If I throw on the GPS with it (like I was doing while on vacation in May/June), I can literally get battery life that lasts 3 hours or less under heavy load.
Zaap
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This is a "problem" best solved by a third party add-on device, not something built into the phone from the start.
For example, before Samsung dumbed-down their phones, a specialized removable back might easily accommodate a fan add-on for someone that wanted that.
For example, before Samsung dumbed-down their phones, a specialized removable back might easily accommodate a fan add-on for someone that wanted that.
That's really cool about the liquid cooling. I'm not against innovative cooling techniques, I just think spinning fans in a phone is impractical.
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