WHY THE HECK!!!! UPDATED W/ PICS

BmXStuD

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... would my p2 350mhz run better than my duron 1300 after HEAVY usage like playin q3. After playin q3 my duron is lagged. After on the p2 it still runs smooth. Matter of fact my duron got ddr 2100 and p2 got sdram. Im ordering 256mb ram soon so i have 512mb. But maybe iwant have to why is this???
 

Gaunt

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There's a couple of things I can think of off-hand. First, different operating systems might make a different... Win2k pro isn't optimized for playing games, although I never had any problems with it when doing so. It might be holding onto memory or caches for longer than you'd like for some reason.

Second, maybe it's a memory leak in a driver for your video card or sound card. I noticed you have an nvidia card, and if you're using their drivers, chances are there won't be any problems... if you're using a release version of the drivers, that is. Beta drivers may cause problems, and I've run into issues with other sets of their drivers which do funny things, like kick me out of games in the title screen...

Anyhow, just two quick thoughts. It's tough to say what the problem might be without a little more information on what hardware and OS is running on the P2. I would think it would be a memory leak, or something of the sort, but it might also be a piece of software running on your duron that's not on your P2 that you may not know is there, eating up CPU cycles... why only after playing Q3, I dunno... :)
 

BmXStuD

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oh ya both same OS heh win2k/win2k. you can check my rigs page both systems are there. Also im about to put my turtle beach card in.. im sign via ac97 now. I think it lagged w/ this card in also. I tohught win98 was like this. I can rember i could keep my p2 350mhz w/ win2k playing q3 up for like 1 week 1 day no lag even after playing. Cant do it w/ my new built pc :/
 

RSMemphis

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Hmm, this is rather strange.

Maybe you have the detail settings much higher on the better machine, and therefore it uses more RAM, making Win2k put everything in the swappy, so it feels lagged thereafter.
But on a 256MB machine...

Try it out though, play the same game on both machines with identical detail and such, and see if there still is a different.

If an OS is lagged, it's almost always due to RAM.
 

thorin

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Something is fubar. How much memory does q3 use on your P2 system? Those numbers 300+MB of memory usage seem EXTREMELY high for Q3.

Thorin
 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: thorin
Something is fubar. How much memory does q3 use on your P2 system? Those numbers 300+MB of memory usage seem EXTREMELY high for Q3.

Thorin

For all standard maps that come with it, quake should run with a heapsize of like 56. This pretty much means that including OS it should run on a 128mb system without paging at all.
 

UlricT

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yeah... looks like you are runnin a LOT more than Q3 on that machine of yours!!! Check what applications are running, and the amount of memory each one uses.

/EDIT: and compare this to what you have running on your P II.
 

Actaeon

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What are you using to screen capture? Is that is what is causing the text in the center?

You know you can PrintScreen/Alt+Printscreen right?
 

BmXStuD

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Originally posted by: Actaeon
What are you using to screen capture? Is that is what is causing the text in the center?

You know you can PrintScreen/Alt+Printscreen right?
im using sme prgram but i use PRINT thing key but when i save it. it goes as a .bmp which is 1.37mb so i tryed "name.gif" dont work so i went to download.com and found that.

 

NokiaDude

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Originally posted by: skiznots
Kazaa is EVIL!!!!

Sniff sniff, I smell spyware!!! :|:|:|You need to run AdAware 6 Personal Edition and run a good antivirus scan. If you're using Kazaa and not Kazaa Lite you're going to find a boatload of spyware hogging your resources.
 

ScrapSilicon

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Originally posted by: NokiaDude
Originally posted by: skiznots
Kazaa is EVIL!!!!

Sniff sniff, I smell spyware!!! :|:|:|You need to run AdAware 6 Personal Edition and run a good antivirus scan. If you're using Kazaa and not Kazaa Lite you're going to find a boatload of spyware hogging your resources.

I saw loadqm ..:D ..1st thing to kill ;) ..wuz AdWatch.. doing..?
 

BmXStuD

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adwatch watching for spyware and blocks it. Its in the payed version of adaware. Like adaware plus.
also is loadqm bad? and wut is it


nmi found this laodqmm

Also could FULL RAM CAUSE MY CRASH. LIKE ALL 256mb FULL?
 

Idoxash

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a year or so ago i notice the same thing with tribes 2... my piii tul 1266mhz v/s amd athlon 1.2 everything was really the same but drivers and mobo hardware. the piii beat the freak out of that 1.2 in gaming on any games i put to it... also i notice that the amd would lagg like crap after you do a major intall, gaming, or moving files off a cdrom... the thing is i never got this with a 1.3duron on a sis base system... the athlon 1.2 was on a old via 133 chipset... do that amd system of yours got via? you ask me almost anything is to blame when it comes to via older stuff.

Idoxash
 

BmXStuD

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Originally posted by: Idoxash
a year or so ago i notice the same thing with tribes 2... my piii tul 1266mhz v/s amd athlon 1.2 everything was really the same but drivers and mobo hardware. the piii beat the freak out of that 1.2 in gaming on any games i put to it... also i notice that the amd would lagg like crap after you do a major intall, gaming, or moving files off a cdrom... the thing is i never got this with a 1.3duron on a sis base system... the athlon 1.2 was on a old via 133 chipset... do that amd system of yours got via? you ask me almost anything is to blame when it comes to via older stuff.

Idoxash


yes but newer heres my link to my mobo


[L=http://www.digiconcepts.com/shuttle_motherboards_02.htm[/url] ][url="http://www.digiconcepts.com/shuttle_motherboards_02.htm"]http://www.digiconcepts.com/shuttle_motherboards_02.htm [/L]
 

Justorq

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Did you install the newest Via drivers ... and how about your BIOS ... do you have the newest one ...
If you didn't install Via's newest drivers ... do it ... and same for your BIOS ...

Justin