Why the heck do people swim with fins?

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Turkish

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Originally posted by: jsbush
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
You have your answer. Even if she swims the same distance, she's going to have more resistance. I'm fairly certain that the amount of energy spent to move that distance with more resistance (anaerobic) is greater than moving that distance with more movement with very little resistance (aerobic).

Maybe in some sports, but not at swimming.

The thing with 90% of the population is, they don't know the proper technique. Heck, I get darn surprised when I see someone using their feet when they swim (without fins). Its like they don't have their lower body. Once you start using feet, I am 99.99% sure you will spend more energy than with fins.

I agree with you and AIWGuru if time is the measure of exercise.


Dude!!!!!

Its been mentioned many times, it offers more resistance!!!!!!! Same exact thing as biking in first gear, or in last gear. You'll go a lot faster in first gear, but they'll be a lot more reistance. Same thing as weight training also, do many reps at low weights (swiming without fins), or do less reps at high weights (swimming with fins,,, more reistance.

I have been swimming since I was 4 years old, and I don't agree with this in swimming. Sorry :)
 

AIWGuru

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I mean come on people, have some common sense. Her goal was not 30 minutes or any other period of time, her goal was simply swimming 20 laps. Have some common sense. jeez.

I actually addressed this directly but I geuss you're illiterate.
Like I said, there is more resistance from two factors:
-Moving more water with each kick
-Moving faster
If she does 20 laps, the 20 she does with fins will be FASTER, and HARDER than the laps she does without. She will get a more intense, superior workout you dumbass.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: Xiety

I have been swimming since I was 4 years old, and I don't agree with this in swimming. Sorry :)

i have been working out AND swimming for years, and i think you basically have no clue. Sorry.

muscle training doesnt change simply because you are doing a different workout. resistence is resistence, no matter the medium.
 

jsbush

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Xiety

I have been swimming since I was 4 years old, and I don't agree with this in swimming. Sorry :)

i have been working out AND swimming for years, and i think you basically have no clue. Sorry.

muscle training doesnt change simply because you are doing a different workout. resistence is resistence, no matter the medium.

Right on the money with that one.
 

Turkish

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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
I mean come on people, have some common sense. Her goal was not 30 minutes or any other period of time, her goal was simply swimming 20 laps. Have some common sense. jeez.



I actually addressed this directly but I geuss you're illiterate.

Like I said, there is more resistance from two factors:

-Moving more water with each kick

-Moving faster

If she does 20 laps, the 20 she does with fins will be FASTER, and HARDER than the laps she does without. She will get a more intense, superior workout you dumbass.

thanks for the insult. must be your way of explaining things :roll:

either way, i believe what i know is true.
 

jsbush

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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
I mean come on people, have some common sense. Her goal was not 30 minutes or any other period of time, her goal was simply swimming 20 laps. Have some common sense. jeez.



I actually addressed this directly but I geuss you're illiterate.

Like I said, there is more resistance from two factors:

-Moving more water with each kick

-Moving faster

If she does 20 laps, the 20 she does with fins will be FASTER, and HARDER than the laps she does without. She will get a more intense, superior workout you dumbass.

thanks for the insult. must be your way of explaining things :roll:

either way, i believe what i know is true.


If you "know whats true" then why did you asked the question in the first place?


Weird.
 

Turkish

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jsbush
Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: AIWGuru
I mean come on people, have some common sense. Her goal was not 30 minutes or any other period of time, her goal was simply swimming 20 laps. Have some common sense. jeez.



I actually addressed this directly but I geuss you're illiterate.

Like I said, there is more resistance from two factors:

-Moving more water with each kick

-Moving faster

If she does 20 laps, the 20 she does with fins will be FASTER, and HARDER than the laps she does without. She will get a more intense, superior workout you dumbass.

thanks for the insult. must be your way of explaining things :roll:

either way, i believe what i know is true.


If you "know whats true" then why did you asked the question in the first place?


Weird.

Read OP.

Just wanted to rant.

:p
 

jsbush

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Topic: Why the heck do people swim with fins?



Forget about that? If you just wanted to rant, why ask a question?


Anyways, we gave our opinion, and you gave yours, and its your choice if you want to stick by it or not.
 

AlienCraft

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The increased surface area = more effort to be applied to move through the water. This is basic physics.
You are wrong. BTW, I've been swimming far longer than you've been alive. The fact that fins require more effort will equal more calories burned overall. Fins can be a great addition to an aquatic workout routine.
 

AIWGuru

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Originally posted by: AlienCraft
The increased surface area = more effort to be applied to move through the water. This is basic physics.
You are wrong. BTW, I've been swimming far longer than you've been alive. The fact that fins require more effort will equal more calories burned overall. Fins can be a great addition to an aquatic workout routine.

The surface area on your feet increases and the muscles in your legs don't get proportionately bigger and neither does your heart to deal with the added rate of circulation?
NO WAY!
I thought new fins=new muscles!
 

AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: AIWGuru
Originally posted by: AlienCraft

The increased surface area = more effort to be applied to move through the water. This is basic physics.

You are wrong. BTW, I've been swimming far longer than you've been alive. The fact that fins require more effort will equal more calories burned overall. Fins can be a great addition to an aquatic workout routine.



The surface area on your feet increases and the muscles in your legs don't get proportionately bigger and neither does your heart to deal with the added rate of circulation?

NO WAY!

I thought new fins=new muscles!
LOL, the only muscle getting "bigger" is the brain thinking that because I'm going faster, I'm doing it at no cost.
There is no such thing as a "Free Lunch".
 

Eli

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Sorry Xiety, but you're wrong on this one.

The bike example is perfect.

If you're in 1st gear(no fins), you are going to be pedaling like mad, but you aren't going to get anywhere very fast.

If you're in 21st gear(fins), it is going to be very difficult to pedal, but you will be flying.

Which one burns more calories? The one which causes your muscles more resistance.

Or think of it this way..

50lbs for 20 reps, or 30lbs for 20 reps.. which one is going to burn more calories?

As someone said, resistance is resistance.. the medium doesen't matter.

Heh.. this is just general physics. Common sense. I don't really know sh!t about working out.
 

StageLeft

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Because humans are pathetic at swimming. Truly pathetic, and with fins it makes them better. Ever see a foot? Now a fin? That's why people wear fins when swimming ;0
 

Amused

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Fins offer increased resistence, meaning the legs have to work harder. Swim with fins for a day, your legs will feel it.

At any rate, even if it did make it easier, what's wrong with that? Should we take the grease out of the bearings in our bikes so the rides are harder?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
you are being a real idiot, no offense. why do some people buy less efficient cars to go the same distance? who knows? who cares? i used to swim all the time, and i used flippers occasionally. it makes the workout a lot more fun. by the way, pools are measured in meters.

LoL... did you read the original post? Her goal is to get in shape, and she was telling me how good swimming is for it and blah blah blah... I swam in Special Olympics, so I am pretty sure I am more knowledgeable than 99% of the people out there (about swimming)(
Sure you do Corky:roll:
 

SagaLore

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I've tried using fins a few times, unfortunately they make me swim backwards. :(