Why the Hatred for Outsourcing?

[geoffry]

Why do most people hate outsourcing?

Question for those that do, what makes an American, Canadian or European more important than an Asian or a South American?

Why should the person in the developed country have a job but not the developing country?

 

[Slick5150]

Uh, because we need jobs here?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: geoffry
Why do most people hate outsourcing?

Question for those that do, what makes an American, Canadian or European more important than an Asian or a South American?

Why should the person in the developed country have a job but not the developing country?

Do you work for 25 cents an hour?

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: geoffry
Why do most people hate outsourcing?

Question for those that do, what makes an American, Canadian or European more important than an Asian or a South American?

Why should the person in the developed country have a job but not the developing country?

Do you work for 25 cents an hour?

What does pay have to do with my view point?

I'm actually self employed if you're really curious.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Uh huh and the big corporations in the US are just so charitable...

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Give them yours then.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Give them yours then.

I chose a field where a nearly limitless amount of people can work, so I think I'm safe unless I make plenty of mistakes and go belly up.

Although now some of those evil machines do the work people used to.

 

[nageov3t]

a job for me > a job for you

 

[IronWing]

We built an economic system that accrues much of the benefits of exploiting the world's natural and labor resources to ourselves and we'd like to keep it that way, thank you.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: geoffry
Why do most people hate outsourcing?

Question for those that do, what makes an American, Canadian or European more important than an Asian or a South American?

Why should the person in the developed country have a job but not the developing country?

Do you work for 25 cents an hour?

What does pay have to do with my view point?

I'm actually self employed if you're really curious.

You must be working for 25 cents an hour.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Uh huh and the big corporations in the US are just so charitable...

Not charitable, tapping a labour force that is incredibly large and suffering from high unemployment, thus they can pay less as demand for work from the people is high.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Uh huh and the big corporations in the US are just so charitable...

Not charitable, tapping a labour force that is incredibly large and suffering from high unemployment, thus they can pay less as demand for work from the people is high.

I knew it.

You're posting from China.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: loki8481
a job for me > a job for you

Yes, for an individual them having a job is very important. And this I completely agree with and understand.

But why do some people hate it more to lose their job to someone in say China as opposed to someone a few blocks away?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Give them yours then.

I chose a field where a nearly limitless amount of people can work, so I think I'm safe unless I make plenty of mistakes and go belly up.

Although now some of those evil machines do the work people used to.

So you have Job Security and choose to complain about those who don't. Nice.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: geoffry
Why do most people hate outsourcing?

Question for those that do, what makes an American, Canadian or European more important than an Asian or a South American?

Why should the person in the developed country have a job but not the developing country?

Do you work for 25 cents an hour?

What does pay have to do with my view point?

I'm actually self employed if you're really curious.

You must be working for 25 cents an hour.

When things are bad perhaps, when things are good I can get several hundred per hour.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Give them yours then.

I chose a field where a nearly limitless amount of people can work, so I think I'm safe unless I make plenty of mistakes and go belly up.

Although now some of those evil machines do the work people used to.

So you have Job Security and choose to complain about those who don't. Nice.

Being self employed does NOT equal job security.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Give them yours then.

I chose a field where a nearly limitless amount of people can work, so I think I'm safe unless I make plenty of mistakes and go belly up.

Although now some of those evil machines do the work people used to.

So you have Job Security and choose to complain about those who don't. Nice.

Being self employed does NOT equal job security.

You said earlier that it was. Which is it?

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Slick5150
Uh, because we need jobs here?

They need jobs there too, look at all those people...

More jobs than us even

Give them yours then.

I chose a field where a nearly limitless amount of people can work, so I think I'm safe unless I make plenty of mistakes and go belly up.

Although now some of those evil machines do the work people used to.

So you have Job Security and choose to complain about those who don't. Nice.

Being self employed does NOT equal job security.

You said earlier that it was. Which is it?

I said if I make mistakes in my business its game over, how to do equate that to me saying my job is mine forever?

In the first post I was merely stating that if developing nation citizens get the education and desire to enter my field, by all means they can, I have no problem with it.

 

[Engineer]

Because it's taking an Amercan's job, that's why. The only people to benefit from the outsourcing are the investor class, which is typically the upper 1% of the population (1% owns over 80% of all stocks of business). The rest of us piss ants get the trickle down...and shit rolls down hill so that's our trickle.

Fuck the rest of the world. Let them even the currency and have "FAIR" trade rules. Until then, fuck em.

Why should Americans give up their jobs so that other countries can have jobs. Why can't they develope their own jobs? Why don't you go to their countries and help them or better yet, donate your job to them?

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Because it's taking an Amercan's job, that's why. The only people to benefit from the outsourcing are the investor class, which is typically the upper 1% of the population (1% owns over 80% of all stocks of business). The rest of us piss ants get the trickle down...and shit rolls down hill so that's our trickle.

Fuck the rest of the world. Let them even the currency and have "FAIR" trade rules. Until then, fuck em.

QFT

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Because it's taking an Amercan's job, that's why. The only people to benefit from the outsourcing are the investor class, which is typically the upper 1% of the population (1% owns over 80% of all stocks of business). The rest of us piss ants get the trickle down...and shit rolls down hill so that's our trickle.

Fuck the rest of the world. Let them even the currency and have "FAIR" trade rules. Until then, fuck em.

Yeesh thats harsh.

And before you go attacking investors, those pension funds all those teachers and who knows other professions that have them are invested in stocks and thus benefit.

I think around 200 million Americans own stocks either directly, through mutual funds or through pension funds.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Engineer
Because it's taking an Amercan's job, that's why. The only people to benefit from the outsourcing are the investor class, which is typically the upper 1% of the population (1% owns over 80% of all stocks of business). The rest of us piss ants get the trickle down...and shit rolls down hill so that's our trickle.

Fuck the rest of the world. Let them even the currency and have "FAIR" trade rules. Until then, fuck em.

Yeesh thats harsh.

And before you go attacking investors, those pension funds all those teachers and who knows other professions that have them are invested in stocks and thus benefit.

I think around 200 million Americans own stocks either directly, through mutual funds or through pension funds.

That's nice. Regardless, the top 1% own 80% of all stocks and the top 5% own 90%. You just think that the US people own a huge chunk of the stocks. Smoke and mirrors.

I guess you think that the average American has enough stock that items like lower capital gains effects them too? How about this: The average person making $70,000 or so per year saved a grand total of $43 dollars after the 15% capital gains tax cuts were put in place. The average millionaire saved $39,000 for EACH million in stock owned. The investor class, as it's called, is not you and me. They are running the show and they are outsourching (offshoring is a better word) for their benefit, not my or your benefits, period.

And no, it's not harsh. It is reality.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Engineer
Because it's taking an Amercan's job, that's why. The only people to benefit from the outsourcing are the investor class, which is typically the upper 1% of the population (1% owns over 80% of all stocks of business). The rest of us piss ants get the trickle down...and shit rolls down hill so that's our trickle.

Fuck the rest of the world. Let them even the currency and have "FAIR" trade rules. Until then, fuck em.

QFT

OK, so thats two for the possible xenophobic answer for why they dislike outsourcing.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Engineer
Because it's taking an Amercan's job, that's why. The only people to benefit from the outsourcing are the investor class, which is typically the upper 1% of the population (1% owns over 80% of all stocks of business). The rest of us piss ants get the trickle down...and shit rolls down hill so that's our trickle.

Fuck the rest of the world. Let them even the currency and have "FAIR" trade rules. Until then, fuck em.

Yeesh thats harsh.

And before you go attacking investors, those pension funds all those teachers and who knows other professions that have them are invested in stocks and thus benefit.

I think around 200 million Americans own stocks either directly, through mutual funds or through pension funds.

That's nice. Regardless, the top 1% own 80% of all stocks and the top 5% own 90%. You just think that the US people own a huge chunk of the stocks. Smoke and mirrors.

And no, it's not harsh. It is reality.

Obviously the top 5% would own more stocks. But in terms of a % of their wealth, a teachers' pension is fairly high and thus they benefit as well.

While they might not benefit as much in dollar terms in % they do OK.

The wealthy would be able to hire the better money managers and put money into the best hedge funds and thus their ROI would more than likely be higher.