I've been trying to read up on it, but absolutely nothing makes it look any better than anything AMD has, so, why should I be excited about Conroe?
Why TF is everyone raving about Conroe so much?
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um it is actually suppose to run cool more work per clock cycle
and oc like a beast
/thread read up next time before wasting my time with simple answers
and oc like a beast
/thread read up next time before wasting my time with simple answers
How about this, a 2.66 conroe beats a 2.8 FX by something like 30 percent average, and people are getting really great OC's with it too
Maximilian
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Yea, and lets face it, the only thing Intels churned out in the last 3 years for the desktop has been garbage compared to the competitions offerings.
Its pretty much all hype right now.
No one has a conroe in hand and is performing free reign benchmarking. Its all Intel Approved benches.
That and the performance gain is speculated to only be around 10% when not looking at best-case scenarios vs the present day A64.
Pretty much there has been no sense in waiting for anything since the Athlon64 was released. That was the chip and sweet spot.
Conroe is pretty much another Northwood, parity with AMD and lil bit more.
And at what price..?
We'll see when its on the streets how it benches and how much it costs to get ahold of one.
No one has a conroe in hand and is performing free reign benchmarking. Its all Intel Approved benches.
That and the performance gain is speculated to only be around 10% when not looking at best-case scenarios vs the present day A64.
Pretty much there has been no sense in waiting for anything since the Athlon64 was released. That was the chip and sweet spot.
Conroe is pretty much another Northwood, parity with AMD and lil bit more.
And at what price..?
We'll see when its on the streets how it benches and how much it costs to get ahold of one.
uh... crusader, before you go all AMD fanboi on my ass, take a look at xtremesystems.org, and try to tell me your first, second, third, and fourth statements hold ANY value.
HardWarrior
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Still, nothing to freak about. All CPU releases are viewed with hushed wonder, until they come out.
Edit: Rollo!
Links for so many people out of the loop, and these aren't intel moderated reviews. Conroe beating current A64 by 10% lol, more like at least 30% clock for clock. Even a 2.13ghz Conroe is slapping a FX-60 around. Latest MSRP on the 2.13ghz part is only 224 dollars. High performance & expected cheap price = HYPE!!!!!!
Conroe @ 2.13 ghz puts the smackdown on a 2.6 FX-60 @ 2.6 and a overclocked FX-60 @ 2.8ghz in this link.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis...ue%2fevalue%2fcpu%2f0605%2f791941.html
Conroe 2.4ghz & 2.66 ghz beating a FX-62 @ 2.8ghz in this link.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692
Conroe @ 2.13 ghz puts the smackdown on a 2.6 FX-60 @ 2.6 and a overclocked FX-60 @ 2.8ghz in this link.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis...ue%2fevalue%2fcpu%2f0605%2f791941.html
Conroe 2.4ghz & 2.66 ghz beating a FX-62 @ 2.8ghz in this link.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692
seriously though, for the best benchies, hit up xtremesystems.org. Right now, i think they have one 6700, one x6800, one 6600, and a 6300 that have been actively benched and posted by members. check it out!
Best thing about Conroe is it will drive down the price of X2's and dual Core Optis since Intel will actually have a chip that Jay Leno can't make jokes about.
I'm also suspecting Conroe will make a killer Server processor.
I'm also suspecting Conroe will make a killer Server processor.
Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Still, nothing to freak about. All CPU releases are viewed with hushed wonder, until they come out.
Edit: Rollo!
LOL yeah sure man. No, I actually am both excited and a little dismayed at Conroe because obviously my AMD X2 @ 2.7 will not be as upper echelon
Conroe will have a definite affect on AMD prices. Better for us, AMD supporters. Its always good to have competition, it spurs price wars. The consumer comes out the winner, great!
Why would you guys buy the inferior product? If something better and cheaper came out, why not buy it?
Oh right, AMD is teh l33t and even when its competitor looks like it is about to gain the lead, AMD levels up and smacks that biznatch!
Because Conroe doesn't fit my needs. You buy it, because you say so.
AMD has always satisfied us "guys" for quite some time. It does the job. The 939s will be around for a long time.
I think it's about damn time Intel came out with something to compete with AMD. All I've built is AMD machines and I'm about ready for a change.
I dont count xtremesystems as valid.
I count my system as valid. I want it on the shelf, priced like its supposed to be.. and perform as it appears to.
Then I'll give credit where its due. Those are hand picked CPUs sent to xtremesystems members to hype up Intels new chip.
Put it in EVERYMANS system.. lets see those overclocks and price/performance.. and I'll be ranting.
As for today.. its still AMDs ballgame and intel is still sucking down gizzm from AMDs long rod.
That said, if it turns out like it appears and its a perfect world.. I'll build a conroe system.
Nvidia + Intel systems are always amazingly stable gaming machines.
I count my system as valid. I want it on the shelf, priced like its supposed to be.. and perform as it appears to.
Then I'll give credit where its due. Those are hand picked CPUs sent to xtremesystems members to hype up Intels new chip.
Put it in EVERYMANS system.. lets see those overclocks and price/performance.. and I'll be ranting.
As for today.. its still AMDs ballgame and intel is still sucking down gizzm from AMDs long rod.
That said, if it turns out like it appears and its a perfect world.. I'll build a conroe system.
Nvidia + Intel systems are always amazingly stable gaming machines.
About time Intel is releasing something worthy of the competition. I guess we'll see if that statement is true once real end users start building rigs and OCing.
phaxmohdem
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I admit I am very intrigued as most people are about the Conroe, and can't wait for NDA to be lifted so credible sites can post their findings in their own labs under their own test conditions.
The one thing I have noticed with all "leaked" conroe benches is that they all blatantly focus on gaming... as if that is the only reason we consumers use PC's... I want to see some real world benches like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects, compiling times, media encoding, multitasking tests, 3D rendering in lightwave/maya/3DS and perhaps some database benches before I make up my mind about the chip.
It's all well and good that Intel can supposedly pwn at 3d gaming, but some people like myself actually use there computers for more than just fragging.
I do realize that there are a few encoding benches around (and don't even get me started on StuperPi benches), but it's all so random and spotty that it doesn't really count at this point in my book.
Anywho, heres to hoping that Conroe pwns in more than just games.
The one thing I have noticed with all "leaked" conroe benches is that they all blatantly focus on gaming... as if that is the only reason we consumers use PC's... I want to see some real world benches like Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects, compiling times, media encoding, multitasking tests, 3D rendering in lightwave/maya/3DS and perhaps some database benches before I make up my mind about the chip.
It's all well and good that Intel can supposedly pwn at 3d gaming, but some people like myself actually use there computers for more than just fragging.
I do realize that there are a few encoding benches around (and don't even get me started on StuperPi benches), but it's all so random and spotty that it doesn't really count at this point in my book.
Anywho, heres to hoping that Conroe pwns in more than just games.
That's just the nature of the beast. Gaming has always been the single-most important factor that drives the hardware industry to make faster and more powerful components. Many game manufacturers such as id develop for hardware that hasn't yet come out...one reason is that people buy screaming components, and they want something that will take advantage. Another is that the shelf life for the game is longer.
As do we all. Just keep in mind that not everyone knows how to set up a zero-point benchmark system, and some numbers will be skewed. You might recall years ago when Apple screamed that they totally stuffed Intel Pentium...and then it was discovered that they did numerous things like comparing Photoshop rendering by using a custom-optimized version for the Mac against a non-customized version for the Pentium. In standard head2head competition by neutral benchmarking parties, the Mac actually lost...badly. At least once or twice ATI has publicly claimed the speed crown until it was discovered they would turn off something like anti-aliasing for their card while comparing numbers against an nVidia card with it turned on.
So ya never know until it's actually in the wild...personally, I'm gonna compare what neutral benchies get to what MaxPC gets, and then base my judgement from there.
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