Why soccer will never make it in the US

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Please...Did you watch the drama when Pierce was carried off the floor in game 2 only to return 15 minutes later?

I don't find single isolated incidents to be comparable to constant behavior and acting on every single flop by soccer players.

Count on your hand every time some soccer player takes a dive, arms flailing, mouth gaping, looking at the ref while he's falling, wincing in pain, rolling over like a chump. You'll run out of fingers. Compare this with other contact sports and you'll still have fingers left and won't get to your right hand. That's all I'm saying and that is why it will never make it in the US.

They need to change the rules or change the pussified players.

Agreed. I really think the refs need to start handing out yellows for that crap. 1-2 a game should get the message across.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: spidey07
OK - enough is enough. I enjoy watching big soccer matches, I'm practically glued to the screen during the world cup. I played for a good amount of time, but you have got to be kidding me with the drama acting going on with these guys.

It's like their second skill is the flop, the painful facial expression, the doubling over in pain and yet NOBODY TOUCHED YOU. Do these guys take acting lessons? It's almost comical watching them in slow motion.

No, I'm not trolling. I understand the game, it is a contact sport. I understand really hard dangerous play/fouls that should be carded. But c'mon, for every real foul out there I'd put it at 5-1 acting to real foul.

I completely agree, I'm a soccer fan but these drama queens are too much.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: LS21
its not as fun to watch because there are no suspense-gripping 20-timeout-calls-in-last-5-minutes-of-gameplay

Yeah as if 40 little timeouts throughout the game for a player writhing in agony on the ground and a ball reset are any better.

Basketball now penalizes players for flopping. Even now, players flop sometimes and don't get the call and their team pays usually with wide open shots.

 

[dbk]

That is exactly what the US team is missing.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Yeah as if 40 little timeouts throughout the game for a player writhing in agony on the ground and a ball reset are any better.

Basketball now penalizes players for flopping. Even now, players flop sometimes and don't get the call and their team pays usually with wide open shots.

there are only a handful of fouls/freekicks during the game, and theyre interspersed evenly throughout the game...

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Note that American wussies had to design tons of protective gear before daring to play Rugby. American Football is as much a sissy game as soccer is.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: spidey07
OK - enough is enough. I enjoy watching big soccer matches, I'm practically glued to the screen during the world cup. I played for a good amount of time, but you have got to be kidding me with the drama acting going on with these guys.

It's like their second skill is the flop, the painful facial expression, the doubling over in pain and yet NOBODY TOUCHED YOU. Do these guys take acting lessons? It's almost comical watching them in slow motion.

No, I'm not trolling. I understand the game, it is a contact sport. I understand really hard dangerous play/fouls that should be carded. But c'mon, for every real foul out there I'd put it at 5-1 acting to real foul.

For reference:

Oh the drama

Also:

Bad calls are the least of your worries.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
No doubt. Brazil seems to be the only exception from South America, as they just beat your ass with skill and generally don't dive (at least from the games I have watched.)

Apart from Rivaldo in 2002 when the ball hit him in the knee, and he went down clutching his face That was truly pathetic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40xpRK_d9u4

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: LS21

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Yeah as if 40 little timeouts throughout the game for a player writhing in agony on the ground and a ball reset are any better.

Basketball now penalizes players for flopping. Even now, players flop sometimes and don't get the call and their team pays usually with wide open shots.

there are only a handful of fouls/freekicks during the game, and theyre interspersed evenly throughout the game...

Every time play stops for a player injurred in a collision, they reset the ball. I said nothing about free kicks.

You'd think after reading all those banners that wrap around the inside of soccer arenas you'd be more literate.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Every time play stops for a player injurred in a collision, they reset the ball. I said nothing about free kicks.

Oh, you mean in cases of people actually getting hurt.

Im sorry the inconvenience of these athlete's injuries detract from your enjoyment of the sport :roll:

And back under context, these occurances are as frequent and annoying as the stop-pause foul-and-time-out flow of a basketball game right :roll:

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
As though basketball is any better...

And the exact EFFEN reason why basketball is turning to shit is because of the euros.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Note that American wussies had to design tons of protective gear before daring to play Rugby. American Football is as much a sissy game as soccer is.

Note that Rugby is played too slowly and by too small/weak of players not to require protective gear that prevents otherwise assured disability or death.

 

[Double Trouble]

spidey, agreed 1000%! It's gotten to the point where it's really starting to affect the game. Every other play there's some guy diving to the ground in agony as if he just got shot, then as soon as the ref turns around and walks away the guy will hop right up and start playing again.

The players have taken it to an art form, I don't think you can put it on the refs to figure out who's faking etc, I think they need to have a post-game review by 3 refs of every world cup / euro cup game. They review the game film and hand out yellow cards to all the fakers and floppers. Treat it just like a yellow card earned during the game, they accumulate and if you have more than one, buh-bye, you're not playing next game. That would put an end to the stupid flailing, especially in the penalty area. Players take dives in the area all the time to try and win the jackpot and get a PK out of it. :|

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Note that Rugby is played too slowly and by too small/weak of players not to require protective gear that prevents otherwise assured disability or death.

Absolute bollocks.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: Shawn
Hockey is the only sport worth watching.

 

[preslove]

Ever watched the NBA. Soccer flopping pales in comparison.

 

[edro]

That's the difference between pussy European soccer, and American soccer.
It happens in games I play here (leagues, pickup games, etc).

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: edro
That's the difference between pussy European soccer, and American soccer.
It happens in games I play here (leagues, pickup games, etc).

Oh yeah, 'cause as Americans we have so much to teach the world in how 'real' soccer is played :roll:

 

[Fenixgoon]

this is why i do not watch any professional soccer - too many people trying to get a call instead of playing the game and letting the refs do their job

 

[Anubis]

"flopping" in soccer really does not happen as much as many of you think it does

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: LS21
its not as fun to watch because there are no suspense-gripping 20-timeout-calls-in-last-5-minutes-of-gameplay

no that?s why IT IS FUN TO WATCH, because there are ZERO time outs and ZERO commercials for 45 min, you get basically 1.5 hours of game play with 1 small break in the middle for 1/2 time

football/BB/baseball/whatever other US sport you want are fucking annoying as hell to watch because there is either a time out or a commercial break every 2 minutes, Football is the worst, pretty soon there?s going to be a commercial after every down

TV time out, yea that just pisses people off. A 1 hour game that takes 4 hours to finish is bad

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Note that American wussies had to design tons of protective gear before daring to play Rugby. American Football is as much a sissy game as soccer is.

Note that Rugby is played too slowly and by too small/weak of players not to require protective gear that prevents otherwise assured disability or death.

Note that you've obviously got no clue what you're talking about.

Broken back bad enough?

There have been several professional rugbyplayers who continued a match with broken collarbone/cheekbone/eyesocket/jawbone in order to not let their teams down.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Note that American wussies had to design tons of protective gear before daring to play Rugby. American Football is as much a sissy game as soccer is.

Uh, yeah, no. We've covered this before. We play Rugby over here, separate from American Football, and its played just the same. But American Football is quite a bit different from Rugby. I am confident if American Football were played today with the same players, in the same way sans protective equipment, there would be multiple deaths a season due to serious injury.

 

[Excelsior]

There have been several professional rugby players who continued a match with broken collarbone/cheekbone/eyesocket/jawbone in order to not let their teams down.

Ive seen the same happen in football. Guys dislocate their shoulder...so they knock it back into place, and go back in the game. Like I said, trying to suggest that American Football is a pussified version of Rugby is utterly ridiculous.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
As though basketball is any better...

Basketball is a non-contact sport. Technically if you so much as brush against someone you're supposed to be called for a foul. No-one calls it that way anymore, but that's how the game is supposed to be played. Watch some of the old games from the 1960's and 1970's.

Soccer is a contact sport.

Fundamental difference.

ZV