My sons 18th birthday is coming up soon. He wants money to buy a new PS3. I suggested that he wait until the PS4 comes out. He explained that PS's aren't really backwards compatible and the game he wants to play is made for the PS3. Now, realize that I'm a PC guy and never really got into console gaming. He is big into PC gaming and has played console games in the past. I'm figuring that when the PS4 comes out, the prices on a PS3 will drop. He feels that everyone knows that PS3's are at the end of their product cycle and they won't drop much lower than they are at right now. I'm here to ask for opinions so I can make an educated suggestion. He is turning 18, so there is only so much influence I have, but I'd like to make a helpful suggestion if I can. FWIW: IIRC, he wants a new console and was thinking of getting the one bundled with GTA5 since the pricing was favorable (when compared to buying them separately) and he said that he enjoyed playing multi player GTA4 on PC with his friends. When I asked if he enjoyed single player GTA4, he said that he didn't care for it, but he had fun playing the multi player.