Why Should School Be Mandatory?

[j@cko]

What is your reason if you think school should be mandatory?

Edit: Cu'z we are doing a debate on this in English class. I just wanns to see what is your reason for it.

 

[agnitrate]

Because if you ask this question you obviously haven't learned anything from it yet.


[Edit] Ah, ok. Sorry for the hostility. Too used to nagging 8 year olds asking me the same question For the more sensible answer...
Education is the foundation of knowledge. Knowledge and experience leads to wisdom. Without knowledge you cannot gain experience to gain the wisdom and therefore you cannot be wise. If you don't want to be intelligent, I guess it's not a problem though.

Also, where else would you gain the essentials for living? I know if I didn't go to school, I probably would be sitting in my room trying to burn something to heat a microwave dinner. Education gives you common sense!

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silver

 

So you don't widen the gap between the rich and poor.
And people must be given the base level of knowledge in order to survive.

 

[SuperSix]

To keep our country relatively intelligent, and to instill some sort of discipline.

Today's students are indeed tomorrow leaders.

 

[AreaCode707]

Because kids aren't smart enough to realize that they need it until they're older. Give kids a choice and they blow it off, go for immediate gratification. Then they grow up and realize, shoulda gone to school. Whoops. So mandatory school attendence is instituted. Also, since everyone gets a vote, I suppose it's in the government's benefit to have educated people voting. (Arguable )

 

[Dean]

Would you want to be in a Country where all your leaders are on the same intelligence level as Jethro Bodine?

Your leaders would be building wooden rocketships to fly to the Moon to collect all the green cheese and Moon Maidens!! heh

 

[McPhreak]

Because I got into enough trouble even after spending half of every day in school. Imagine the possibilities if I didn't have school to occupy my time... If you thought prisons were crowded now...

Seriously though, in addition to hopefully keeping kids from causing too much damage, I think it's because EVERY profession, whether it's being CEO of a company to being a janitor, a basic knowledge of certain topics such as math and writing are necessary. And most of this is covered up through high school. When you start reaching 10th grade, I guess the issue of poor families who need kids to work steps in and so that's why it's mandatory up until 10th grade.

 

[Jfur]

in many cases (sadly) the primary function is babysitting and social programming

 

[StageLeft]

Because without an education you do things like learn how to fly a plane into buildings.

 

[heartsurgeon]

society is better off with educated citizens than with uneducated citizens.
we want everyone making money and paying taxes
we want less people on welfare (sucking up tax dollars)
we don't want a bunch of yahoos electing our politicians (yes we actually could do worse)
we need somewhere to send the kids during the day so we [pick one] don't go crazy/can go to work!

 

[StUdMaN]

it shouldnt be
it actually turns people into dumbbutts
look at the textbooks of 150 years ago on math,the stuff if scary as hell the amount of knowledge people were expected to know
because everyone must goto school the requirments are greatly lowered for passing grades so that everyone can pass in return not as much subject matter is covered and teachers are expected to curb the grades anyway(no teacher wants to have a failing class)but there are true idiots that are schooled along with the rest of us and it brings everyone down
use to be only people serious about learning could get into school now everyone is in
look at college students all they know how to do is use daddy's money and gripe and avoid working
I see a lot of them,mostly females-all lacking in knowledge
I know cause I am marrying one and the more she hangs out with her roommate the dumber she becomes not to mention that there are very few of them that are actually good at working
the good students really dont get the kind of instruction that they could because of everyone being admitted

 

[Balt]

BECUASE AT SCOOL YOU LEARN REAL GOOD

 

[Kenazo]

studman... some of what you say is true. Public school has lowered our expectations of excellence to something attainable by the majority. This does lower the number of truly exceptional students, however as a society we are further a head b/c the average is higher.

 

[ace31216]

At a young age.... kids are not mature yet and need guidance. At the same time, children need to learn skills and interact in order to function in society. As we grow order, we can take in more information and become more responsible. The best time to learn is at an early age. School must be mandatory

 

[gopunk]

the good students really dont get the kind of instruction that they could because of everyone being admitted

uh, you are aware of the fact that there are highly competitive schools? not to mention majors? for example, the uw accepts 75% or something like that of all applicants. but to get into a good department, you have to work your ass off. really the only classes that suffer are the introductory classes.

not to be rude or anything, but have you ever been to a 4 year university? not some cc, but a real university? i only ask because you don't seem to know very much about them.

college is what you make of it. it's not like a lot of public schools where nobody cares if you learn... if you aren't be challenged, you take higher level courses. most profs are more than willing to let you take upper level courses as long as you can keep up.

 

[StUdMaN]

I live about 5 blocks from OSU no I have never attended,my squeeze does
I see and deal with college kids all the time-I never went because I never wanted to go and actually I think I am a lot better off for never going and pursuing my intelectual pursuits at my home(no I am not talking about home schooling)

 

[jacklutz]

<< Edit: Cu'z we are doing a debate on this in English class. I just wanns to see what is your reason for it. >>



Basic English skills.

I agree with the babysitting part, and I've learned more by my own initiative than I have in school.



<< Edit: Cu'z we are doing a debate on this in English class. I just wanns to see what is your reason for it. >>



Basic English skills.

I agree with the babysitting part, and I've learned more by my own initiative than I have in school.

Edit: Being in HS, I have the joy of listening to counselors preach to my alphabetized part of the student body about how to go about meeting requirements for colleges. I can't remember hearing the word "education" used once during the last pre-registration session, but "college" and "graduation" were in every-other sentence. The classes are ridiculously easy; in World History our teacher reads the answers to a review worksheet (an almost identical copy of the quiz) at the beginning of the period on the day of a quiz. Amazingly, some people still fail... nonetheless, very few people in that class could answer an essay or debate a topic covered in that class.


In Health, we were issued a great little book on abstinence. This quote speaks volumnes about the educational system (note: not once in the book are any pros of not being abstinent listed):
"Abstinence can help me prepare for a good marriage by helping me to... / [] Be more confident / [] Have a positive self-image / [] Learn responsibility / [] Earn the respect of others / [] Be respectful of others / [] Accomplish my educational goals / [] Develop good relationship skills / [] Exercise self-control / [] Focus on my studies / [] Be faithful to my future spouse"

That was one of the less insulting pages... here's a truly bad one:
"What are some qualities that you have that would make you a good friend to others?"

This book is issued to teens who are the age that they are learning to, or are legally allowed to, drive a car.

I learn next to nothing in the hours I spend at school, but there's no chance mandatory attendance could be done away with. More of rant than anything, but food for thought to those lucky enough to not be here about the usefulness of it beyond babysitting.

 

[Cyberian]

<< not to be rude or anything, but have you ever been to a 4 year university? not some cc, but a real university? i only ask because you don't seem to know very much about them.
>>

I think the original question was about compulsory school attendance. It was until age 16 when I went to school.

 

[gopunk]

I think the original question was about compulsory school attendance. It was until age 16 when I went to school.

yes it was, but he brought up the subject of college students.

I see and deal with college kids all the time-I never went because I never wanted to go and actually I think I am a lot better off for never going and pursuing my intelectual pursuits at my home(no I am not talking about home schooling)

please be aware that there are many different type of college students. perhaps you just hang around a specific type. but the people that i hang out with are the brightest of the bunch, highly dedicated to their education. it's highly unlikely they could have gotten a better education by not going to college. by going to college, they are given the opportunity to work in research labs... something the average individual does not get to do.

may i ask what your intellectual pursuits consist of? because i really think that there are some things that are usually better served in a university, like bioengineering.

 

[rival]

cuz we am are need the of edumajakation am give me! or something...

 

[McPhreak]

<<
please be aware that there are many different type of college students. perhaps you just hang around a specific type. but the people that i hang out with are the brightest of the bunch, highly dedicated to their education. it's highly unlikely they could have gotten a better education by not going to college. by going to college, they are given the opportunity to work in research labs... something the average individual does not get to do.

may i ask what your intellectual pursuits consist of? because i really think that there are some things that are usually better served in a university, like bioengineering. >>



Well put. I don't believe in any way that education has declined as compared to 150 or however many years ago. It's simply different. Whereas kids used to study astronomy and be musical geniuses and such, we now have kids who are computer or engineering geniuses. I believe that much of what we learn or use in everyday life is taken for granted. No, there is no modern day Leonardo or Mozart, but then again there never was a historical Bill Gates (I know, bad examples, but you get the idea).

And the same applies to Universities. It's amazing that while an undergraduate, I was learning in my basic biology classes and biology labs, what people spent their entire lives working on, except it was all summed up in one tidy paragraph. Thus, we begin to take much of this for granted as well. I really believe that education is still very much alive, it's just that we don't realize it.

 

[StUdMaN]

general science-at one time math(all disciplines),chemistry(no actuall experience too affraid the cops would think I am making a drug lab),electronics,for the science part for the others it was mostly Kabala
as for the types I hung around it was from Parker hall the honor students which are not my usual cup of tea no resentment to the honors it is just that in most things they are slow to think and even slower to formulate a correct answer even in the most simple of things-except one but she is the exception and burries her head in the book much like I used to like to do

 

[gopunk]

as for the types I hung around it was from Parker hall the honor students which are not my usual cup of tea no resentment to the honors it is just that in most things they are slow to think and even slower to formulate a correct answer even in the most simple of things

okay, so the honors program at osu isn't selective i guess. i hang around kids that skipped hs and entered the university of washington at age 14-15, so maybe my perception is kind of skewed. but i still say you're incorrect to assume that students don't get the type of instruction they need. i see this all the time in "gifted" children... they gripe about how they're smarter than everybody else and that's why they don't do the work, or go to school, or whatever. but in reality, there are students just as smart, if not smarter, who get along just fine because they find ways to challenge themselves, whether at home or at school.

btw, if you think osu is too easy for you, why not go to MIT or a better school? or do you think you're too smart for that too?

 

[StUdMaN]

too old besides kinda happy where I am I get to bitch about the football nut and play ccomputer games and listen to heavy metal all day
I would have liked to have some of the chances they had but I got into trouble with the law on numerous occasions so secluded myself