Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Tolerance has started to become synomous with total acceptance, but it not. Expressing one's tolerance(or lack of) on issues does not make make them a bigot.
I do not tolerate "gay" TV programming so I choose not to watch.(not that I watch much TV anyway) but that sure doesn't make me a bigot.
Cad, for someone who likes to argue semantics as much as you do, you would think you would understand the meaning behind these most basic words ...
Tolerate: (a) to not interfere with; allow; permit (b) to recognize and respect others' beliefs, practics, etc., without sharing them ...
Tolerance: (a) tolerating or being tolerant, esp. of views, beliefs, practices, etc of others that differ from one's own. (b) freedom from bigotry and prejudice. Next up,
Bigot: a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.
So, regardless of what YOU think they mean, they apply quite nicely to Daniel1113's comments in this thread. And others in this thread as well.
Intolerance has become a dirty word. It is not.
I do not tolerate my kids disobeying me. - is that bad?
I do not tolerate employers who don't get me my paycheck on time. - is that bad?
I do not tolerate a computer that is slow. - is that bad?
Your examples of "intolerance" don't work here Cad, I don't think I should have to explain why
What you quoted above is daniel1113's expression of the limit to his tolerance - he tolerates less than you on this issue but that doesn't neccesarily make him a bigot or totally intolerant.
Either he's tolerant or he's not. He clearly isn't. Because he's not, he's also a bigot. They sound like bad words, but they're really just words... Nothing to be afraid of.
I think that morally, homosexuality is wrong, but I understand that people are going to do what they want to do. I don't have to accept it as a "normal" behavior to be "tolerant." I feel that I am more than tolerant on this issue because I understand that not everyone has the same morals as I, and they will do what they want regardless of my opinion. Again - this doesn't mean I "endorse" it, but rather, I don't feel that it is right and I will express my opinion when appropriate. I won't change a homosexual's behavior by telling them it is morally wrong(IMO
) so I choose to not engage in direct battle. I will however stand up for my morals and principles when they are encroached upon.
You're right Cad, there's a difference between "tolerance" and "acceptance" -- however, someone who's tolerant doesn't go around bashing gays, or calling them names, or pounding the desk and asserting that it's "wrong," etc. I would think that would be pretty clear. Maybe not?
As for your "...morals and principals being encroached upon..." - I don't really understand how that could happen unless you were propositioned by a gay man or something. Is that what you're referring to? Because otherwise, I don't see how it can happen.