Why robbing a doughnut shop is a bad idea

TallBill

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Illinois Officers On Leave After Doughnut Shop Killing
Courtney Greve
Chicago Sun Times



Two Midlothian police officers went on paid leave Monday as State Police began investigating the officers' decision to gun down an alleged robber who climbed through a doughnut shop's drive-up window and pistol-whipped an employee.

Bobby Pounds of Dixmoor repeatedly used his gun to beat the employee's head and face about 11:15 p.m. on Sunday at the Dunkin' Donuts at 14631 S. Pulaski, police said.

When Pounds, who turned 21 the same day he was killed, spotted the Midlothian officers who had been flagged down by another Dunkin' Donuts worker, Pounds allegedly pointed the gun at them. The officers then opened fire, shattering two windows and a door.

'THEY SAVED HIS LIFE'

African-American ministers and Pounds' family raised questions Monday about whether deadly force was needed, noting Pounds' 6-foot, 140-pound frame.

But Midlothian Detective Sgt. Harold Kaufman said he is "very, very confident" the officers acted appropriately based his review of security-video footage. The Dunkin Doughnuts employee received 19 staples and nine stitches before he was released Monday from St. Francis Hospital in Blue Island, police said.

"The officers were at the right place at the right time," Kaufman said. "I honestly feel, from the beating [the victim] took, they saved his life by being there."

FAMILY WANTS ANSWERS

The two officers, whom officials refused to identify, are on paid leave while the Illinois State Police public integrity unit investigates the incident.

More than 20 of Pounds' family members gathered Monday at Midwest Memorial Chapel in Harvey to make funeral arrangements and challenge police to provide answers. Pounds' survivors include two sons, Ryan, 4, and Justin, 17 months.

"We're not here today to argue innocence or guilt," said the Rev. Lance Davis of New Zion Christian Fellowship in Dolton. "We're here to raise questions as to the amount of force used to murder an individual and to stop the open season on young African-American men in the community."



See, cops getting donuts isn't always a bad thing :p Oh, and that Reverend is an idiot.
 

arcenite

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If someone ever pointed a gun at me you better believe I am going to shoot to kill.
 

edro

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Apr 5, 2002
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LOL!

I guy jumps in through a drive through window, pistol whips a guy in the face (blood everywhere), then points the gun at 2 cops... The cops fire back, and that is too much force?

WTF, seriously.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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hmm he pistol whips someone. then points a gun at the cops? yeap justified shooting. anyway everyone knows that cops are protective about there doughnut!
 

MX2

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"We're here to raise questions as to the amount of force used to murder an individual and to stop the open season on young African-American men in the community."

:roll:
 
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/me patiently waits on the release of the security video

Based on what we know though, I'm gonna say Darwin just pulled off another Fatality.

- M4H
 
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Originally posted by: waggy
hmm he pistol whips someone. then points a gun at the cops? yeap justified shooting. anyway everyone knows that cops are protective about there doughnut!

their, not "there"

It's a stressful holiday for ya, eh, lifer? ;)
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: waggy
hmm he pistol whips someone. then points a gun at the cops? yeap justified shooting. anyway everyone knows that cops are protective about there doughnut!

their, not "there"

It's a stressful holiday for ya, eh, lifer? ;)

that and the :beer: =)
 

Rainsford

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You know, I think it would help racial equality quite a lot if people would stop trying to turn everything bad that happens to a black guy into some sort of racial bias on the part of society. "open season on young African-American men in the community"...? Give me a break, this had nothing to do with the guy being black, it had to do with him beating someone with his gun and then pointing it at cops. I'm sure these "outraged" people think they are helping, but they are making it worse.
 

ScottFern

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This happened like 15 minutes from my house. I heard about it in our local paper, the Daily Southtown. Midlothian is a lower class white/mexican/black area, and so is Harvey.

This is complete bullshit, this Reverend and the dead guys family completely blocked out the fact he pistol whipped a guy repeatedly. Idiots!

 

pontifex

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Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: edro
LOL!

I guy jumps in through a drive through window, pistol whips a guy in the face (blood everywhere), then points the gun at 2 cops... The cops fire back, and that is too much force?

WTF, seriously.

 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
/me patiently waits on the release of the security video

Based on what we know though, I'm gonna say Darwin just pulled off another Fatality.

- M4H

I'm going to say you're 100% wrong.
This guy had 2 kids, Darwin failed.


But seriously, who cares if he's black? Who cares if he's 6' and only 140lbs?
HE HAD A GUN!
Whether you're a 500lb lard ass or a dwarf, if you have a gun you're equally as capable of inflicing serious harm as a skilled athlete or trained martial artist with a gun.
it doesn't matter what you look like or what your body is like, you have the same chance of being skilled with firearms.

The officers could not know how good this guy was with his gun, you can't tell that from appearance, so they made a decision, the right decision and shot that retard.
 

BooGiMaN

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"We're not here today to argue innocence or guilt," :roll: :roll:

perhaps if the he hadn't tried to greet the donut person by beating their face in and then try to wave hello to the police officers with his GUN...


"We're not here today to argue innocence or guilt, we are here to present him with a darwin award"
 

Cooler

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Dont stand between a cop and his doughnut or things will get ugly.
Edit: 1337 Post!
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Illinois Officers On Leave After Doughnut Shop Killing
Courtney Greve
Chicago Sun Times



Two Midlothian police officers went on paid leave Monday as State Police began investigating the officers' decision to gun down an alleged robber who climbed through a doughnut shop's drive-up window and pistol-whipped an employee.

Bobby Pounds of Dixmoor repeatedly used his gun to beat the employee's head and face about 11:15 p.m. on Sunday at the Dunkin' Donuts at 14631 S. Pulaski, police said.

When Pounds, who turned 21 the same day he was killed, spotted the Midlothian officers who had been flagged down by another Dunkin' Donuts worker, Pounds allegedly pointed the gun at them. The officers then opened fire, shattering two windows and a door.

'THEY SAVED HIS LIFE'

African-American ministers and Pounds' family raised questions Monday about whether deadly force was needed, noting Pounds' 6-foot, 140-pound frame.

But Midlothian Detective Sgt. Harold Kaufman said he is "very, very confident" the officers acted appropriately based his review of security-video footage. The Dunkin Doughnuts employee received 19 staples and nine stitches before he was released Monday from St. Francis Hospital in Blue Island, police said.

"The officers were at the right place at the right time," Kaufman said. "I honestly feel, from the beating [the victim] took, they saved his life by being there."

FAMILY WANTS ANSWERS

The two officers, whom officials refused to identify, are on paid leave while the Illinois State Police public integrity unit investigates the incident.

More than 20 of Pounds' family members gathered Monday at Midwest Memorial Chapel in Harvey to make funeral arrangements and challenge police to provide answers. Pounds' survivors include two sons, Ryan, 4, and Justin, 17 months.

"We're not here today to argue innocence or guilt," said the Rev. Lance Davis of New Zion Christian Fellowship in Dolton. "We're here to raise questions as to the amount of force used to murder an individual and to stop the open season on young African-American men in the community."



See, cops getting donuts isn't always a bad thing :p Oh, and that Reverend is an idiot.


Agreed.

I would hope that if someone was pistol whipping me,that a Police Officer would help me,too.


 

mercanucaribe

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I fail to see how being 6 feet and 140lbs has anything to do with deadly force. Does a gun need a heavyweight to be fired?
 

herkulease

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I fail to see how being 6 feet and 140lbs has anything to do with deadly force. Does a gun need a heavyweight to be fired?

of course not. because that reverend and the guy's family have no other excuse. so they bring up that he's black. he's such a small person. In an attempt to demonize the police officers which I can bet is white and try to excuse the guy's action.
 

Babbles

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Wow, I am stunned that the race card is needlessly being played.

Shocking I tell you . . .