Why People Believe Misinformation, Even After It's Corrected

[dmcowen674]

This certainly pertains to the Republicans on here.

Time and time again they are presented with the facts and they never accept them.

The best example is the made up story of WMD in Iraq that never existed yet ask just about every Republican and they will swear WMD was there.

Edit: Another example as one of the guys brought up is Negative Advertising.

Dumb Americans bought the Swift Boat Ads hook, line and sinker.



2-8-2012

http://gma.yahoo.com/why-people-believe-misinformation-even-corrected-162943705--abc-news.html

Why People Believe Misinformation, Even After It's Corrected



Have you seen the photo of the dog that's as big as a horse? How about the deer on top of a telephone pole? And do you know about the Hollywood actor who needed emergency medical help because of a gerbil that went where no gerbil had gone before?


That's all a bunch of bunk, or course. But we've heard those stories, or seen those photos, so many times that they have become a part of our world, even if they are totally false.


These days we are bombarded with information, much of it incorrect, and long after the political campaigns are over a lot of it will still be buried in the part of our brain where we store our memories. And new research shows that the more intensely we believe something to be true, the more likely it will resurface in the future, even if we have learned it was false.

People who don't want to believe in another candidate, for example, may not be open to even considering that the new information is correct.

 

[chucky2]

OMG the irony...

 

[Bateluer]

This certainly pertains to the Republicans on here.

Wow . . . libs really do live in their own fantasy land.

 

[irishScott]

This certainly pertains to the Republicans on here.

Time and time again they are presented with the facts and they never accept them.

The best example is the made up story of WMD in Iraq that never existed yet ask just about every Republican and they will swear WMD was there.


2-8-2012

http://gma.yahoo.com/why-people-believe-misinformation-even-corrected-162943705--abc-news.html

Why People Believe Misinformation, Even After It's Corrected



Have you seen the photo of the dog that's as big as a horse? How about the deer on top of a telephone pole? And do you know about the Hollywood actor who needed emergency medical help because of a gerbil that went where no gerbil had gone before?


That's all a bunch of bunk, or course. But we've heard those stories, or seen those photos, so many times that they have become a part of our world, even if they are totally false.


These days we are bombarded with information, much of it incorrect, and long after the political campaigns are over a lot of it will still be buried in the part of our brain where we store our memories. And new research shows that the more intensely we believe something to be true, the more likely it will resurface in the future, even if we have learned it was false.

People who don't want to believe in another candidate, for example, may not be open to even considering that the new information is correct.

Quoting the OP for the record. This thread and others like it is exactly the problem with P&N, and what I was complaining about in the "desired priorities for p&n moderation" thread.

This thread is nothing more than a sounding board for DMCowen. It exists solely so he can hear himself think and piss people off. His "argument" (and I use the term loosely) is one pathetically steaming pile of logical fallacies and the link he posted is irrelevant to it, in addition to being neither politics nor news. This kind of thread should not be tolerated, and people who post them should be vacationed for two or three days IMO.

 

[dmcowen674]

Quoting the OP for the record. This thread and others like it is exactly the problem with P&N, and what I was complaining about in the "desired priorities for p&n moderation" thread.

This thread is nothing more than a sounding board for DMCowen. It exists solely so he can hear himself think and piss people off. His "argument" (and I use the term loosely) is one pathetically steaming pile of logical fallacies and the link he posted is irrelevant to it, in addition to being neither politics nor news. This kind of thread should not be tolerated, and people who post them should be vacationed for two or three days IMO.

It is a thread linked to an article and with my opinion.

That was the posting an Original Post rule and still is as far as I know.

You are free to ignore the post unless there is someone there holding a gun to your head. If so you need to change venue or a permanent banning from access to the Internets.

 

[airdata]

The best example is the made up story of WMD in Iraq that never existed yet ask just about every Republican and they will swear WMD was there.

Bro, don't you remember? We went to liberate the iraqi people !!!

 

[modestninja]

Quoting the OP for the record. This thread and others like it is exactly the problem with P&N, and what I was complaining about in the "desired priorities for p&n moderation" thread.

This thread is nothing more than a sounding board for DMCowen. It exists solely so he can hear himself think and piss people off. His "argument" (and I use the term loosely) is one pathetically steaming pile of logical fallacies and the link he posted is irrelevant to it, in addition to being neither politics nor news. This kind of thread should not be tolerated, and people who post them should be vacationed for two or three days IMO.

The thing is though, is that there is a real problem there. There have been studies that show people believe misinformation even after it's been disproven or shown to be wildly out of context which is why negative ads in a political campaign are so effective. IIRC, there have been some other studies that have shown this effect too. The problem with the thread is that he posted the issue as a right vs left, D vs R, conservative vs liberal thread that brings in all the bullsh!t that you normally see in P&N instead of a reasoned discussion.

 

[BoberFett]

How's that $5 gas? What about the milk? Or the vinegar police?

 

[sm625]

What's really funny is when you present undeniable evidence that democrats and conservatives are the same thing when it comes to the upper echelons of power. People jsut go right on believing there is a difference, and arguing so passionately for "their guy" when he is for all the same key policies as the guy he hates so much.

 

[irishScott]

It is a thread linked to an article and with my opinion.

That was the posting an Original Post rule and still is as far as I know.

You are free to ignore the post unless there is someone there holding a gun to your head. If so you need to change venue or a permanent banning from access to the Internets.

So if I make a thread about how cat people are stupid, and link to an article showing a large percentage of Democrats own cats, and cite vague, inaccurate examples of stupid Democrat cat ownership, that should be allowed to go through?

Sorry if my standards are higher than yours, but then again this isn't so much a question of standards as a question of wants. I want a forum where every discussion is a casually moderated debate, with logical arguments and supports with at least mild research such that everyone's mutual understanding of an issue is increased, regardless of their view. In short, I want real fucking debates that don't spiral off into a handful of posters spamming their pathetic political nether-regions.

You apparently want the privilege of making a political jerk-off thread whenever you like. This thread is the political equivalent of a guy jerking off to a webcam on chat-roulette. If you're not doing it to troll, if you truly believe that you're serving some higher cause by posting opinions not merely containing but entirely comprised of logical fallacies public-schooled 7th graders I personally know would catch, well that shouldn't be permitted IMO. Unfortunately I don't write the forum rules and wouldn't have time to enforce them if I did.

 

[DesiPower]

Q. Why did Obama wait so long to release his birth certificate?
A. He didn't have a registered copy of PhotoShop.

 

[irishScott]

The thing is though, is that there is a real problem there. There have been studies that show people believe misinformation even after it's been disproven or shown to be wildly out of context which is why negative ads in a political campaign are so effective. IIRC, there have been some other studies that have shown this effect too. The problem with the thread is that he posted the issue as a right vs left, D vs R, conservative vs liberal thread that brings in all the bullsh!t that you normally see in P&N instead of a reasoned discussion.

Agree completely. I'm not challenging the integrity of the link, merely the validity of his opinion and his reasons for posting it (and the link).

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by dmcowen674
It is a thread linked to an article and with my opinion.

That was the posting an Original Post rule and still is as far as I know.

You are free to ignore the post unless there is someone there holding a gun to your head. If so you need to change venue or a permanent banning from access to the Internets.

So if I make a thread about how cat people are stupid, and link to an article showing a large percentage of Democrats own cats, and cite vague, inaccurate examples of stupid Democrat cat ownership, that should be allowed to go through?

Sorry if my standards are higher than yours, but then again this isn't so much a question of standards as a question of wants. I want a forum where every discussion is a casually moderated debate, with logical arguments and supports with at least mild research such that everyone's mutual understanding of an issue is increased, regardless of their view. In short, I want real fucking debates that don't spiral off into a handful of posters spamming their pathetic political nether-regions.

You apparently want the privilege of making a political jerk-off thread whenever you like. This thread is the political equivalent of a guy jerking off to a webcam on chat-roulette. If you're not doing it to troll, if you truly believe that you're serving some higher cause by posting opinions not merely containing but entirely comprised of logical fallacies public-schooled 7th graders I personally know would catch, well that shouldn't be permitted IMO. Unfortunately I don't write the forum rules and wouldn't have time to enforce them if I did.

Well it's certainly a good thing you are not an Administrator or a Moderator but you certainly could take Hugo Chavez's place when he dies of cancer shortly.

 

[modestninja]

Originally Posted by dmcowen674
It is a thread linked to an article and with my opinion.

That was the posting an Original Post rule and still is as far as I know.

You are free to ignore the post unless there is someone there holding a gun to your head. If so you need to change venue or a permanent banning from access to the Internets.




Well it's certainly a good thing you are not an Administrator or a Moderator but you certainly could take Hugo Chavez's place when he dies of cancer shortly.

Just because it's allowed, doesn't make it worthwhile.

 

[Lemon law]

Bro, don't you remember? We went to liberate the iraqi people !!!

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Or maybe we went into to steal their oil, does it matter now, as we have buyers regret for the Iraqi quagmire GWB&co lied us into. As for the Iraqi people, hundreds of thousand died violently and almost 2 million got exiled as GWB proved he had no competency as a war time President.

As polling data from Iraqis show, our US offer of help was the worst thing that ever happened to them. As more and more nations refuse to allow any offer of US help like the plague.

 

[Xellos2099]

This is irony... I KEEP remember saying Bush SOTU address attack Freddie for their loan practice and the DEmocart say it is all Bush falut...

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by dmcowen674
Originally Posted by dmcowen674
It is a thread linked to an article and with my opinion.

That was the posting an Original Post rule and still is as far as I know.

You are free to ignore the post unless there is someone there holding a gun to your head. If so you need to change venue or a permanent banning from access to the Internets.

Well it's certainly a good thing you are not an Administrator or a Moderator but you certainly could take Hugo Chavez's place when he dies of cancer shortly.

Just because it's allowed, doesn't make it worthwhile.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it but you know what they say about opinions, they are like assholes, everyone has one.

If you don't like it you don't have to look or respond with a post.

You should permanently ban yourself from the Internets too since you are clearly showing you are not capable of handling them.

I bet you are easily swayed by misinformation and believe it too even when corrected. This thread certainly applies to you in many ways obviously.

 

[chucky2]

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Or maybe we went into to steal their oil, does it matter now, as we have buyers regret for the Iraqi quagmire GWB&co lied us into. As for the Iraqi people, hundreds of thousand died violently and almost 2 million got exiled as GWB proved he had no competency as a war time President.

As polling data from Iraqis show, our US offer of help was the worst thing that ever happened to them. As more and more nations refuse to allow any offer of US help like the plague.

Yea, we gansta stole they oil G, we stole it so bad, we left (as we always said we would) and took none of they oil with us...dang dog, we gansta!

 

[Jaskalas]

This certainly pertains to the Republicans on here.

You must be one of them.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by modestninja
The thing is though, is that there is a real problem there. There have been studies that show people believe misinformation even after it's been disproven or shown to be wildly out of context which is why negative ads in a political campaign are so effective. IIRC, there have been some other studies that have shown this effect too. The problem with the thread is that he posted the issue as a right vs left, D vs R, conservative vs liberal thread that brings in all the bullsh!t that you normally see in P&N instead of a reasoned discussion.

Agree completely. I'm not challenging the integrity of the link, merely the validity of his opinion and his reasons for posting it (and the link).

No, that's not what you were doing.

You were attacking the messenger (me) instead of the validity of the article and that is the problem in here that they let attacks on the OP to occur at will.

You are part of the problem.

 

[soulcougher73]

Just because it's allowed, doesn't make it worthwhile.

Yet its worthwhile enough to post in a thread that is not worthwhile.

Hmmm

 

[chucky2]

Haha I love this thread...

 

[JEDIYoda]

This certainly pertains to the Republicans on here.

Time and time again they are presented with the facts and they never accept them.

The best example is the made up story of WMD in Iraq that never existed yet ask just about every Republican and they will swear WMD was there.

Edit: Another example as one of the guys brought up is Negative Advertising.

Dumb Americans bought the Swift Boat Ads hook, line and sinker.



2-8-2012

http://gma.yahoo.com/why-people-believe-misinformation-even-corrected-162943705--abc-news.html

Why People Believe Misinformation, Even After It's Corrected



Have you seen the photo of the dog that's as big as a horse? How about the deer on top of a telephone pole? And do you know about the Hollywood actor who needed emergency medical help because of a gerbil that went where no gerbil had gone before?


That's all a bunch of bunk, or course. But we've heard those stories, or seen those photos, so many times that they have become a part of our world, even if they are totally false.


These days we are bombarded with information, much of it incorrect, and long after the political campaigns are over a lot of it will still be buried in the part of our brain where we store our memories. And new research shows that the more intensely we believe something to be true, the more likely it will resurface in the future, even if we have learned it was false.

People who don't want to believe in another candidate, for example, may not be open to even considering that the new information is correct.

That is what makes America so great!!! Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion!!!

 

[modestninja]

Originally Posted by modestninja
The thing is though, is that there is a real problem there. There have been studies that show people believe misinformation even after it's been disproven or shown to be wildly out of context which is why negative ads in a political campaign are so effective. IIRC, there have been some other studies that have shown this effect too. The problem with the thread is that he posted the issue as a right vs left, D vs R, conservative vs liberal thread that brings in all the bullsh!t that you normally see in P&N instead of a reasoned discussion.




No, that's not what you were doing.

You were attacking the messenger (me) instead of the validity of the article and that is the problem in here that they let attacks on the OP to occur at will.

You are part of the problem.

All I'm saying is that if you want real discussion about the real problem raised in the article, then putting in crap about how Rs are more susceptible to misinformation than Ds (or vice versa) is not going to achieve that goal. All it's going to do is make a bunch of pointless posts like this all the while overshadowing any intelligent discussion that could otherwise have been had.

Given the nature of your posts after the initial one, it's obvious that an intelligent, civil discussion was not your intention, so congratulations!

 

[Lemon law]

Of course, people like Dmcowen674 has a disturbing track record of asking hard questions, and gasp causing cognitive dissonance, and he thus must be dope slapped as a forum heretic, because its the easiest way to avoid actually thinking.

Thinking is hard. Snappy slogans explain consensus consensus politics much better.

Mr. we need a President like Hoover again.