Why not make it impossible to operate a car while intoxicated?

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IceBergSLiM

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Absolutely but this would be a PITA for everyone. Most don't know when the Uncle is doing crap under the table.

it would be a PITA for the first week...then it would become habit like putting on your seatbelt. blow n go is ancient technology they have even less invasive systems that could be used.
 

waggy

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I've had my blow and go installed for a few days now and I don't think it would be bad for all cars to have them. It takes an extra ten seconds before you take off but wouldn't that be worth saving thousands of lives a year? It would also do away with not knowing your bac like things are now.

It would get my vote for sure

so because you are a idiot and got a DUI you want everyone else to have the device?
 

Schadenfroh

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economies of scale = neglible cost
You are talking about an industry that thought a lock on the gas tank was too expensive, so they inserted a mesh inside the gas tank to prevent fuel from being siphoned.
moot because it is easy to get caught cheating too
Some are adept at driving while intoxicated (by definition of the state).
 

HamburgerBoy

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Better solution: firing squad for people convicted of manslaughter while DUI. And the op just as a bonus.
 

IceBergSLiM

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You are talking about an industry that thought a lock on the gas tank was too expensive, so they inserted a mesh inside the gas tank to prevent fuel from being siphoned.

Some are adept at driving while intoxicated (by definition of the state).

Seat belts aren't always worn correctly and air bags don't always deploy correctly but their utility in saving a huge number of lives cannot be denied.
 

gorcorps

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maybe where you are. Even still that is a reactive measure. lives could have already been destroyed by the drunk driver at the point they have to get a blow n go installed.

So where do we end then? Quick piss test for THC before you can drive too? Better check blood sugar, as if somebody passed out from a diabetic coma that could kill a car full of people.

I agree that a preventative measure would be nice, but mandatory blow-n-gos aren't the answer IMO. I don't have a better solution other than setting an example of the previously guilty, but I also don't think more should be needed.
 

bvalpati

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First, forget any rights you presume to have regarding operating a vehicle in the US because there is no guaranteed "right" to operate anything on a public roadway. Second, any person who can't be bothered with the nearly insignificant annoyance associated with blow and go in order to save thousands of lives every year is a complete douche.
 

Codewiz

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How is that a solution. Someone has already died in a manslaughter case = problem not prevented.

Ok let me ask you a SIMPLE question.

Who are the people we really have to worry about with this solution? It will be the habitual offenders. It would deter "accidental" drunk driving. People that don't intend to drive drunk but had one too many beers.

However, it would not take any of the habitual offenders off the road. They are already breaking the law so why do you think they wouldn't just bypass the system?
 

bvalpati

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Also, this very same argument can be made for cell phone use while driving. I don't know for certain but I'm guessing it would be technically feasible to render cell phones unusable with a certain proximity of a running vehicle thus forcing people to pull over and turn off their vehicles in order to use their cell phones, that would be a perfect solution.

Since the numbers of accidents caused by drunken driving and driving while texting has not been deterred by the existing laws it's obvious some people are incapable controlling their own behavior. People always want to call these types of suggestions "nanny government" which is applicable under some circumstances but when the behavior being nannied(sp?) has the potential to kill innocent people it no longer falls under that classification.
 

IceBergSLiM

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So where do we end then? Quick piss test for THC before you can drive too? Better check blood sugar, as if somebody passed out from a diabetic coma that could kill a car full of people.

I agree that a preventative measure would be nice, but mandatory blow-n-gos aren't the answer IMO. I don't have a better solution other than setting an example of the previously guilty, but I also don't think more should be needed.

Where do we end?

Well I would hope one day not to long from now cars fully drive themselves and all traffic is controlled from omnipresent wireless sensors. Driving isn't an activity that should always have a human intervention. We trust robots and computers to perform complex micro surgery in the human body, automated cars are not far fetched.


Punitive Legislation has historically NEVER worked for anything in this country. Evidenced by some of the highest incarceration rates in the world with unparalleled recidivism.
 

IceBergSLiM

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Ok let me ask you a SIMPLE question.

Who are the people we really have to worry about with this solution? It will be the habitual offenders. It would deter "accidental" drunk driving. People that don't intend to drive drunk but had one too many beers.

However, it would not take any of the habitual offenders off the road. They are already breaking the law so why do you think they wouldn't just bypass the system?

for the same reason everyone doesn't just "bypass" emissions and safety inspection.
 

bvalpati

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You can use a cell phone while driving, as long as it's hands free.

I'm not nearly as concerned with cell phone voice while driving especially if it's hands free, texting is far more dangerous. I suppose I could live with a hands free voice to text translator while driving.
 

gorcorps

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for the same reason everyone doesn't just "bypass" emissions and safety inspection.

Emissions inspection is a state thing (maybe even county thing)

Only 2 counties in Indiana for example have emissions testing IIRC.
 

highland145

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Punitive Legislation has historically NEVER worked for anything in this country. Evidenced by some of the highest incarceration rates in the world with unparalleled recidivism.
That's because it's not punitive enough. Singapore, ftw.
 

Codewiz

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for the same reason everyone doesn't just "bypass" emissions and safety inspection.

Nothing in common found in your comparison.

People aren't addicted to emissions or safety inspections.

People are alcoholics and drive drunk. There is no method to make these devices unhackable. You could make it difficult with real time updating but that opens a whole different can of worms.

Try again????
 

DrunkenSano

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I've had my blow and go installed for a few days now and I don't think it would be bad for all cars to have them. It takes an extra ten seconds before you take off but wouldn't that be worth saving thousands of lives a year? It would also do away with not knowing your bac like things are now.

It would get my vote for sure

It's a terrible idea for one main reason. We're not all drunk driving retards like you. Maybe next time you drive drunk, you'll wrap yourself around a tree at high speeds so you don't have to bother us with your idiocy
 

Numenorean

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I've had my blow and go installed for a few days now and I don't think it would be bad for all cars to have them. It takes an extra ten seconds before you take off but wouldn't that be worth saving thousands of lives a year? It would also do away with not knowing your bac like things are now.

It would get my vote for sure

Fuck you. Just because you can't fucking not drink and drive doesn't mean that everyone who is a responsible driver should have a fucking blow thing installed in their cars. There is no need for me to have it and I don't want one in my car. I don't drink and drive.

What would be better is to permanently revoke the license of those people who do drink and drive, and institute mandatory jail time as well.