why not a laptop with no lcd?

dpopiz

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1. the lcd is extremely expensive
2. the laptop without the lcd may possibly cheaper than a similar desktop since there's so much integration
3. if you're just using your laptop like most people for a class or taking to a friend's house or whatever, there should be a monitor sitting around that you can use
so why not take that new desknote idea (notebook with no battery) and go a step further by not including a screen?
 

tm37

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Because with a desknote you only need an outlet where as with no LCD you would need a Monitor.

Getting a outlet to plug into is a lot easier than finding a monitor.

I use my laptop when Traveling and I use it plugged in 98% of the time. However Holiday inn doen't provide me with a monitor to use.
 

CubicZirconia

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if you're just using your laptop like most people for a class or taking to a friend's house or whatever, there should be a monitor sitting around that you can use

I would say most people use laptops when they are on the go, and the average person (read: someone not posting on the AT forums) does not have a monitor lying around.
 

Lord Evermore

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That's what boards like the VIA mini-ITX sized are for -- use in very small cases. Possibly even giving you a slight upgrade path (maybe a single PCI slot) and even with PCMCIA slots. This Dell, while a bit bigger than a laptop, would provide better performance due to the speedier hard drive than a typical laptop and the desktop P4. Without a monitor, it's just over 1000 dollars with a P4 2GHz. A 15 inch flat panel only adds at most 500 dollars (from Dell).

There are also several other cases that are that size or smaller, or designs which give you a PCMCIA slot.
 

Xtremist

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You're not alone. If this were a cheap alternative to a laptop I'd get one, and the place I'd work would probably get a few hundred. The problem I/we have is not that we want something we can use on the plane/hotel/etc... We just want something that's the exact same at work and at home. Something that's light enough to tote around, but inexpensive enough to actually purchase for normal users.

It's weird so many seem to think you meant to suggest a laptop replacement. At least I hope you weren't :) It's really a very seperate and untouched market in my opinion. I've only had two laptops, and don't have any at the moment. Once I realized I used it over 90% of the time at a location that I could have used a normal PC (don't travel much), I decided I might as well get another nice desktop.

At any rate, I think it's a good idea at least ;)
 

Lord Evermore

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And the Dell machine I linked to, or similar ones, is exactly what you need for that situation.

It just took a while for highly integrated chipsets with good performance to appear.
 

dpopiz

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Xtremist: yeah, I don't really mean a laptop replacement..just a system that can be very easily toted around (which would entail having keyboard, speakers, and maybe pointing device built-in) while staying cheap enough that price wouldn't be a deterent.
 

Xtremist

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I don't even care if it has THAT built-in personally since I'd be using external devices anyway, but it wouldn't hurt for sure.

Lord Evermore - That is close to what I'd want, but it needs to be about half as wide, closer to the profile of a laptop. I also don't imagine it's nearly as light as a laptop (could be wrong, couldn't find weight data fast). That offering by Dell is close, but I think I'd end up still just getting two and keeping one at each place ;) But you're right, as integrated chipsets get better, especially become available with many features and are more stable, hopefully we'll see something like this appear more mainstream.