why no one sales x1900GT below $300?

mikek753

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I don't see for a while ATI promisssed x1900GT in $300 or below range.
Do you?
With 7900GT prices start to cool down below $300 mark ATI x1900GT doesn't stand with prices >$350 - what do you think?

Or ATI waits for x1800XT to be sold out?
 

450R

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I don't think ATI ever promised a $300 price point, that's just what everyone (logically) expected considering its specifications. Now that we have some reviews reinforcing those early assumptions I can only guess that ATI is waiting for the X1800XT stock to sell before bringing the X1900GT's price down to competitive levels.
 

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Originally posted by: 450R
I don't think ATI ever promised a $300 price point, that's just what everyone (logically) expected considering its specifications. Now that we have some reviews reinforcing those early assumptions I can only guess that ATI is waiting for the X1800XT stock to sell before bringing the X1900GT's price down to competitive levels.

Yeah, the X1900GT is suppose to be around $300. Why would they put a superior product to it be cheaper?
 

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You can pick it up for $300 at Best Buy if you really want one. Although with the X1800XT selling for less everywhere, there's no point.
 

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Originally posted by: mikek753
I don't see for a while ATI promisssed x1900GT in $300 or below range.
Do you?
With 7900GT prices start to cool down below $300 mark ATI x1900GT doesn't stand with prices >$350 - what do you think?

Or ATI waits for x1800XT to be sold out?

maybe you're unaware of how newegg pricing works
 

450R

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
maybe you're unaware of how newegg pricing works

I must be unaware of NewEgg's stock of X1900GT 'cause I don't see any.

 

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i think MSRP for the X1900GT is $350, so i'm not surprised that its hard to find one under $300. I'm sure if sales suck for the part, then ATI will lower the price to better compete with the 7900GT.

But if you're looking for best performance, you're better off looking at the X1800XT 512MB, which can be had for under $300. I got mine from newegg for $260 back when they had the $50 off ATI code. Sure, it has fewer pixel pipes, I'd rather have 16 pipes and 16 ROPS than 36 pipes and 12 ROPs, since a 12 ROP part simply can't keep the extra pixel pipes busy enough. Also, the memory on the X1800XT runs much faster (1.5GHz versus 1.2GHz) which makes a big difference at high resolutions with AA/AF enabled.

I would have thought that ATI would have learned their lesson from the X800 Pro - gamers don't like the idea of paying $300+ for a crippled card. the 6800GT crushed the X800 pro because of this reason, and when ATI released their X800XL a little while later, it was much better recieved cause it was a full fledged X800 core, just at a lower speed. The cut down GT/GTO formula only works in the $200 range, where people are willing to put up with cut down pipes in order to get a cheap card with the possibility of bios modding it to a full high end card.
 

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Originally posted by: gobucks
i think MSRP for the X1900GT is $350, so i'm not surprised that its hard to find one under $300. I'm sure if sales suck for the part, then ATI will lower the price to better compete with the 7900GT.

But if you're looking for best performance, you're better off looking at the X1800XT 512MB, which can be had for under $300. I got mine from newegg for $260 back when they had the $50 off ATI code. Sure, it has fewer pixel pipes, I'd rather have 16 pipes and 16 ROPS than 36 pipes and 12 ROPs, since a 12 ROP part simply can't keep the extra pixel pipes busy enough. Also, the memory on the X1800XT runs much faster (1.5GHz versus 1.2GHz) which makes a big difference at high resolutions with AA/AF enabled.

I would have thought that ATI would have learned their lesson from the X800 Pro - gamers don't like the idea of paying $300+ for a crippled card. the 6800GT crushed the X800 pro because of this reason, and when ATI released their X800XL a little while later, it was much better recieved cause it was a full fledged X800 core, just at a lower speed. The cut down GT/GTO formula only works in the $200 range, where people are willing to put up with cut down pipes in order to get a cheap card with the possibility of bios modding it to a full high end card.

Well then how would you explain the 7800 GT and 7800 GTX? The 7800 GT was a cut down 7800 GTX core and still sold quite well. For a MSRP of 449US I might add.

Also the X1900 GT is better slated to replace the X1800 XT for cost purposes, it only requires 256MB of memory of 1.6ns grade, it uses defective R580 cores which are currently in production, unlike the R520, which should be getting less production.

What's most important that the performance is there agains the competing card not how many pipes or if it's disabled or not.
 

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They are waiting for the X1800XT stock to sell out?

I was going to pick up a 512 MB edition one. Should I hurry before they sell out? I was going to get a monitor first...
 

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Originally posted by: 450R
Originally posted by: ElFenix
maybe you're unaware of how newegg pricing works

I must be unaware of NewEgg's stock of X1900GT 'cause I don't see any.

oh, i thought the poster was complaining about the price.
 

mikek753

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I'm not complaining or any ...
I has been waiting for ATI respond to NV 7900GT as x1900GT.
And now I'm lost :-(
As
1. I don't see the card at main e-tailers sites
2. No REAL review yet x1900GT vs 7900GT ( yes I've read inq review)

I was hoping to get ATI that can run with Antec 380W PSU that is why I hold off x1800XT

so looks like I'll go with 7900GT KO that is below $300 mark and is not as loud and power hungry - IMHO.
I don't have any plans to change HFS and shell another $30+ for it.

Some one mentioned that ATI put 1.6n memory on 1900GT - is it true?

Which card to go with? I don't want wait more ....

Thanks.
 

Link

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Originally posted by: gobucks
i think MSRP for the X1900GT is $350, so i'm not surprised that its hard to find one under $300. I'm sure if sales suck for the part, then ATI will lower the price to better compete with the 7900GT.

But if you're looking for best performance, you're better off looking at the X1800XT 512MB, which can be had for under $300. I got mine from newegg for $260 back when they had the $50 off ATI code. Sure, it has fewer pixel pipes, I'd rather have 16 pipes and 16 ROPS than 36 pipes and 12 ROPs, since a 12 ROP part simply can't keep the extra pixel pipes busy enough. Also, the memory on the X1800XT runs much faster (1.5GHz versus 1.2GHz) which makes a big difference at high resolutions with AA/AF enabled.

I would have thought that ATI would have learned their lesson from the X800 Pro - gamers don't like the idea of paying $300+ for a crippled card. the 6800GT crushed the X800 pro because of this reason, and when ATI released their X800XL a little while later, it was much better recieved cause it was a full fledged X800 core, just at a lower speed. The cut down GT/GTO formula only works in the $200 range, where people are willing to put up with cut down pipes in order to get a cheap card with the possibility of bios modding it to a full high end card.


ATI stated HERE that X1900GT's MSRP is $299.

And Bestbuy is selling X1900GT at $399, not $300.

p.s. HERE, ATI shows $399.:confused:
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Link
ATI stated HERE that X1900GT's MSRP is $299.

And Bestbuy is selling X1900GT at $399, not $300.

p.s. HERE, ATI shows $399.:confused:

Though that ATI lists is under high suspect as alot of prices on it aren't entirely correct.

the MSRP of the X1600 XT is now down to 179US from 249US which isn't even listed by the way.

the MSRP of the X1600 Pro 256 is down to 129US from 199US not 249US the X1600 Pro was never that price.

the X1900 XTX is down to 549US MSRP, with the X1900 XT down to MSRP of 479US. Down from 649US and 549US respectively I believe.

So there are too many errors on that particular page to put much stock into it.
 

mamisano

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This was supposed to be an OEM only card until just recently. Like any newly released product, give it time to be widely available and you will see the price drop to acceptable levels.