Why must Catholic priests be celibate?

JEDI

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Before the 11th Century, Catholic priests were allowed to marry.

Mandatory celibacy originates in the 11th century, when Pope Gregory VII (1073-1085) banned priests from marrying in an effort to stop their families from inheriting Church property.

In other words, enforced celibacy was not implemented for theological reasons.

So why does it exist today?
 

Kadarin

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It is yet another indication that the Church as it exists now is not what Jesus had intended it to be.
 

SilentZero

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Before the 11th Century, Catholic priests were allowed to marry.

Mandatory celibacy originates in the 11th century, when Pope Gregory VII (1073-1085) banned priests from marrying in an effort to stop their families from inheriting Church property.

In other words, enforced celibacy was not implemented for theological reasons.

So why does it exist today?

Guess you survived russian roulette. :( :p
 

djplayx714

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a better question would have been why nuns have to be celibate. there are so many hot nuns out there.
 

Amused

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A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.
 

Stojakapimp

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it's because before the 11th century the Catholic church was part of the Orthodox church, which clearly has better rules than the Catholic church
 

KarenMarie

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when i was young, i was told that nuns and priests were not allowed to get married because they were supposed to devote 100% of their lives to God and the Church. And if they were to take a spouse and have kids.. then their families would detract from the devotion they are supposed to give to God and the Church.

I was like 9 at the time and it made sense back then..

hahaha!!
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: Amused
A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.

Heres a penny :)
 

dr150

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The Church = Enron = Tyco = Arthur Anderson = Adelphia = Every lawyer on Planet Earth
 

BMdoobieW

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Originally posted by: JEDI
Before the 11th Century, Catholic priests were allowed to marry.

Mandatory celibacy originates in the 11th century, when Pope Gregory VII (1073-1085) banned priests from marrying in an effort to stop their families from inheriting Church property.

In other words, enforced celibacy was not implemented for theological reasons.

So why does it exist today?


Is that really true? If so, HA HA HA HA HA!
 

imported_xaguynamedguyx

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this is weird. I was just talking to my family about this, i dont know how it started but we were talking about how stupid of a rule that is for priests to be celibate
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Amused
A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.

:thumbsup:

I like that!
 

Safeway

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They are giving up their materialistic, human, earth bound lives. They cannot be tainted with good sex.
 

KarenMarie

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Originally posted by: Amused
A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.

I get the point of what you are saying....

but I just feel sorry for the hungry monkeys.
:(
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: Amused
A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.
Well said, I am definitely going to repeat this in other company. :D :thumbsup:
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: KarenMarie
Originally posted by: Amused
A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.

I get the point of what you are saying....

but I just feel sorry for the hungry monkeys.
:(
Don't worry about the monkeys, they have little boys. Feel bad for them.
 

BigToque

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One of the reasons that I have heard and I think is a very good point is that when you and me marry someone, we dedicate our lives to that one person.

A priest (or nun) dedicates their entire life to God.

In either case, you cannot give everything to one person/God if you are committed to another.
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: Amused
A thought:

This is how a psychological experiment with monkeys demonstrates development of a tradition. Submitted: You have five monkeys in a cage. A bunch of bananas is suspended from the ceiling, a ladder underneath it. One hungry monkey approaches the ladder with a clear intent to get a banana. As soon as it touches the ladder, you turn on the hose and douse all the monkeys with very cold water. In a little while, another monkey attempts to get a banana. Again, cold water for everybody. Turn off the water. When a third monkey, nearly faint with hunger, tries to get a banana, the others will grab it and hold it back, because they don?t want another cold shower. Now, remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one. As soon as it sees the bananas, it will try to go for them. The others will viciously attack it. After the third attempt, the rookie will realize that it cannot have a banana. Now, replace another one of the original monkeys with a new one. As soon as it reaches for a banana, it will get attacked by all the others, including the rapidly learning rookie #1, who will be as enthusiastic as the rest of them, if not more so. And so, after you have gradually replaced all the monkeys, the cage will contain five monkeys who have never had a cold shower but who will not allow anyone to get a banana. Why? Because that?s the way things are done around here.

wow did u actually write this on your own or is this a copy and paste job??
 

AnyMal

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In 1053 christian church split over new rules proposed by the pope. Marriage by priests was one of the torn issues.