Why Multigenerational Households Make Sense

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Fewer American families live like this today than in 1953. But according to a new report from the Pew Research Center, multigenerational households are becoming more common. In 1980, some 12 percent of families had two or more adult generations living under the same roof. Now, 18 percent do, and the total number of Americans with this living arrangement has doubled, to 56.8 million. Almost half (48 percent) are in households that working parents share with luckless “boomerangs” sheltering in their old childhood bedrooms. But nearly as many are living with three generations or more. In fact, 20 percent of Americans age 65 or older live in multigenerational households, compared to 16 percent in 1990.

Economics and culture help explain why. There is a glut of unmarried, underemployed young adults who could use their parents’ help. And young couples are increasingly finding that having parents join their households makes economic sense. For one thing, it is a real boon for working couples with kids, Steven Mintz, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Austin, points out. Mintz’s mother-in-law lives with his family. Having another adult to help with child care and cooking frees up working-age parents in demanding careers, and for Mintz’s family, it has made theirs feel “closer and more integrated” than it would otherwise, he says. More broadly, it’s cheaper to run one household than two, and the need to save is still keenly felt after the recession. Some newlyweds are delaying or eschewing home buying (and some who did become home-owners suffered a massive case of buyer’s remorse post-recession). Many young families have parents with large houses—bought for a song in cheaper, more booming times—with plenty of room to share.

Moreover, many retiree baby boomers—let’s call them “boomerees”—say they would like to be close to family. For an earlier generation, retirement meant a secluded Sun City with a golf course, far from offspring. But “today’s retirees report wanting to stay in their communities and engage with younger generations,” says Donna Butts of Generations United, a family research nonprofit and advocacy group. Boomer grandparents dote on grandchildren, and increasingly care for them. Intergenerational affinity between parents and children is high. “People actually like each other,” says Butts—some enough to live under the same roof.

An increase in the number of immigrants over the past several decades has also boosted the number of multigenerational households. Outside the United States, living this way is common, and families continue the practice even after moving here. Non-native-born Americans are more likely to live with three generations; some 14 percent of Asian Americans do so. It is also not uncommon among blacks and Latinos, whose median family incomes are lower than the American average and whose share of single parents is higher. Each of these minority groups is growing, and more homes with three generations are apt to come.

This is not to say that such households are common. Though the number of Americans living this way is rising, the overall portion of this type of household is still extremely small—just 5 percent, according to census data—and has not changed dramatically in the last decade. When the Eisenhowers moved into the White House, about one-quarter of older Americans lived with their children. In an earlier century, more than 60 percent of elderly white people lived with members of a younger generation, according to Steven Ruggles of the University of Minnesota. Living together was necessary in an agrarian society, but older generations had tremendous power over younger ones: You had to behave yourself to inherit the farm. It was good for the old and oppressive for the young, especially daughters—“a horrible time,” says Ruggles. Industrialization opened up labor markets, and grown children could escape to the cities, earn independent wages, and set up their own homes. (Mom and Dad on the farm could go and fend for themselves.) In the 20th-century post-war years, cities boomed and suburbs full of nuclear-family homes followed.

That sense of independence runs particularly deep for the most senior baby boomers (those born around 1946) and the generations preceding them. “Especially,” observes Nancy Thompson of the AARP, among “those of us who were among the earliest group of women in this country to work steadily outside the home.” Thompson is a grandmother, and her children have asked more than once whether she would like to live with them, but she has demurred. “I don’t think it would be good for anyone for me to meddle in their lives or they in mine,” she says. (It reportedly took some coaxing to get First Granny Robinson, born in 1937, to come live with the kids.)

But demographics and social factors point to more in multigenerational living in the long term: Increased acceptance feeds greater prevalence, and vice-versa. Baby boomers young enough to have boomerangs in the basement might not see sharing a house as so out of the ordinary when they leave the workforce and become boomerees. Their children also have a deeper sense of responsibility for caring for aging parents than older cohorts did, according to an earlier Pew study. Boomerangs, remembering the warm bed and home-cooked meals in their struggling years, might be more inclined to repay the favor when Mom and Dad could use some help. (Lennar, a savvy housing developer, has already been building “Next Gen” homes for two families with this living arrangement in mind.) It is surely not for everyone, but with childcare costs soaring, and aged care is also getting costlier (the average assisted-living home is now $42,600 a year), it could be worth the annoyance of a few more episodes of The Price is Right playing on the living room television.

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There are a lot (as mentioned in this article) advantages to this. Elderly parents can help with childcare needs if a young couple is struggling with kids and income, and adult kids can help their elderly parents with household up keep, or an aging parent who might need physical assistance. There are many more reasons than just those but I see no problem with this.

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BoberFett

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But that's not the American dream. Every American, even those working at McDondalds, should be able to afford their own homes. Living with grandma is an abomination foisted upon us the greedy rich. Old people should be dumped into nursing homes where we can forget about them, they'd just get in the way of the American dream if we actually had to interact with them.
 

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But that's not the American dream. Every American, even those working at McDondalds, should be able to afford their own homes. Living with grandma is an abomination foisted upon us the greedy rich. Old people should be dumped into nursing homes where we can forget about them, they'd just get in the way of the American dream if we actually had to interact with them.

Yup, you have summed up the modern attitude well.
 

squarecut1

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But it all depends on the individuals that comprise the different generations. Some people are easier to get along with than others.
 

IronWing

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It also limits economic potential as it reduces the ability to move for a new job.
 

Oldgamer

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But that's not the American dream. Every American, even those working at McDondalds, should be able to afford their own homes. Living with grandma is an abomination foisted upon us the greedy rich. Old people should be dumped into nursing homes where we can forget about them, they'd just get in the way of the American dream if we actually had to interact with them.


Well yea, it seems that some have done a good job of making this a "shameful" thing instead of a positive thing.
 

squarecut1

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Well yea, it seems that some have done a good job of making this a "shameful" thing instead of a positive thing.

The attitudes have changed over the years. It is all about ME nowadays. People barely have the flexibility and compromise with their significant others, let alone with other family members of a different generation.
 

Spungo

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<racist comment about lots of colored people living together>

Someone once said that family is the free market solution to poverty. The less you have, the tighter your family should be.
 

squarecut1

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I know there are many immigrants in the US and Western world that still live in the multi generational way.
 

Fern

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I think multigenerational households can be a good thing.

I think at the very least living near your family is a good thing, particularly for poorer people. Day care? Stay with grandma.

And I think it's often very healthy for the old and young alike to have contact. We have retirees here that don't want kids and young people around. And vice versa. But living in Europe I saw how the old and young live among each and really get along quite well.

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Ronstang

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So someone is trying to justify the US becoming a nation of losers? That's really all this is about. I'm a single guy with a four bedroom house to myself. The only thing I'd add is a wife if I had one and any kids that came out of that deal.
 

BoberFett

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So someone is trying to justify the US becoming a nation of losers? That's really all this is about. I'm a single guy with a four bedroom house to myself. The only thing I'd add is a wife if I had one and any kids that came out of that deal.

The "ideal" American lifestyle as depicted by commercialism is unsustainable. A mere blip in history afforded to us post-WW2. The idea that every single person or DINK couple should be able to have a huge house, several cars, and all the trappings of "success" simply doesn't jive with reality. The average American lifestyle must necessarily reach equilibrium with those of it's trading partners. If you're wealthy enough to afford those things, good for you. But the world can't support billions of people living that way.
 

yllus

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Does anyone know what the real reason North American households moved away from being multi-generational? It sounds like we'd rather be on our own in general if given the choice.
 

Oldgamer

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Does anyone know what the real reason North American households moved away from being multi-generational? It sounds like we'd rather be on our own in general if given the choice.

I think we were sold on it. There were tons of black and white TV ads of the perfect white picket fence home back int the 50s-60s, with the 3-4 bedroom home. Shows like Leave it to Beaver and stuff that played. Perfect beautiful homes, where the kids grew up and then went to college and on their own. The grandparents were comfortably retired in their own homes and had their own little retirement home out in the country somewhere. All that is gone now. American greed has killed the American dream.

But honestly I have over the years seen more ethnic groups stick to this sort of way of life than the typical caucasian American. It seems that those who live this type of lifestyle tend to have tighter knit families, tighter bonds. They nurse grandma and grandpa till their death in their home. Their kids are never raised in a daycare because the elders or the adults that live in the house pitch in and help out.

I don't think this is such a bad thing honestly.
 

BoberFett

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I think we were sold on it. There were tons of black and white TV ads of the perfect white picket fence home back int the 50s-60s, with the 3-4 bedroom home. Shows like Leave it to Beaver and stuff that played. Perfect beautiful homes, where the kids grew up and then went to college and on their own. The grandparents were comfortably retired in their own homes and had their own little retirement home out in the country somewhere. All that is gone now. American greed has killed the American dream.

But honestly I have over the years seen more ethnic groups stick to this sort of way of life than the typical caucasian American. It seems that those who live this type of lifestyle tend to have tighter knit families, tighter bonds. They nurse grandma and grandpa till their death in their home. Their kids are never raised in a daycare because the elders or the adults that live in the house pitch in and help out.

I don't think this is such a bad thing honestly.

I think marketing played a part in it. But there's also still a powerful pioneer attitude that sticks with us from the days when this country was built. The wild frontier wasn't really all that long ago.
 

squarecut1

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This thread should have been in OT though. A lot of sensible people avoid the politics forum, perhaps for good reason
 

bradley

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But that's not the American dream. Every American, even those working at McDondalds, should be able to afford their own homes. Living with grandma is an abomination foisted upon us the greedy rich. Old people should be dumped into nursing homes where we can forget about them, they'd just get in the way of the American dream if we actually had to interact with them.

This goes well with the current American ideal artifice of getting all of the benefits/rewards/blessings and none of the sacrifice/burdens/risk.

When the time comes, you'd better hope your children take better care of you than you took care of your parents.
 

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This goes well with the current American ideal artifice of getting all of the benefits/rewards/blessings and none of the sacrifice/burdens/risk.

When the time comes, you'd better hope your children take better care of you than you took care of your parents.
Children learn from their parents. What they see is what they do
 

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So someone is trying to justify the US becoming a nation of losers? That's really all this is about. I'm a single guy with a four bedroom house to myself. .

And freedom, oh freedom well, that's just some people talkin'
Your prison is walking through this world all alone*
 

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The "ideal" American lifestyle as depicted by commercialism is unsustainable. A mere blip in history afforded to us post-WW2. The idea that every single person or DINK couple should be able to have a huge house, several cars, and all the trappings of "success" simply doesn't jive with reality. The average American lifestyle must necessarily reach equilibrium with those of it's trading partners. If you're wealthy enough to afford those things, good for you. But the world can't support billions of people living that way.

If half the world lived the american dream, we would probably be out of oil and half way through the coal reserves already. Single family homes result in a lot of wasted energy.
 

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I grew up in a multi-generational household. When my dad immigrated from Italy, he took his mother with him to US and kept her in his house. When he got married, my mom came to live with them. This was not strange to my mother; being from Italy also she is also accustomed to the same arrangement. My mother's mom lives in the house with her son, his wife and kids. Its what we do, keep the family together.

My gf is European descended and of the same mindset as my family. When we get married, if her mother or my mother want to come live with us I wouldn't mind. Ideally, the best situation would be an in-law apartment in the same house.
 

Matt1970

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So someone is trying to justify the US becoming a nation of losers? That's really all this is about. I'm a single guy with a four bedroom house to myself. The only thing I'd add is a wife if I had one and any kids that came out of that deal.

Single guy with 3 bedroom house here, same as my girlfriend. I had to stay 2 weeks back at my parents house after my closing date on my house got pushed back 2 weeks and I already gave notice at my apartment. Don't get me wrong, I love my parents but it was the longest 2 weeks of my life.
 

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If half the world lived the american dream, we would probably be out of oil and half way through the coal reserves already. Single family homes result in a lot of wasted energy.

That truth gets served one way or another.

The problem for real environmentalists is how to achieve less wasted energy in the face of economic and political policy that continually attempts to drive consumerism and "the american dream" while paying lip service to the environment.

"The American Dream" is nothing more than a persistent poster board folks get inundated with as a carrot. Nicer yet is there's two (and only two) choices to achieve that dream. /s

Obviously it's not sustainable or even appropriate given the conditions of the world around us. But the debt serf system of the USA that drives the massive wealth for an ownership society benefiting a few at the expense of many is only sustainable so long as folks buy into the sham.

Why do you think Obama is opening the border? Need more fools to buy into the system, to serve entrenched interests. Each one of those kids only represents 100k+ of a debt vehicle to get loaded and then tied to so that they work to pay off while being burdened with more debt. A few of em will do great things, but the goal is to load them up and their off spring with debt to keep the ponzi scheme going. Illegal immigrants aren't exactly breaking down barriers or achieving any sort of economic freedom in the USA, so given we aren't working on that end of the thing, but rather opening the border, it leaves little room for arguing about what the purpose of delivering them into the system is for.
 
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Zaap

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Just curious (and I have no beef with anyone living however they want to and can afford) why do single people feel a need to live alone in 3 or 4 bedroom houses?

Since I've been married with kids I love having a decent sized house... but as a single guy I had no desire for so much wasted space just for myself. For one thing, back then I never had time for so much upkeep.