Why isn't Romney competitive in Massachusetts?

[Todd33]

It is the only office he ever had, he was a great governor right? Why isn't he getting a home state advantage?

 

[Nintendesert]

Derp.

 

[randomrogue]

Probably for the same reason Gore lost Tennessee. They both suck.

 

[Todd33]

He lost Tennessee 51 - 48, which made him competitive. He also was not a Governor, which is essentially the president of the state. So any real answers?

 

[Genx87]

He lost Tennessee 51 - 48, which made him competitive. He also was not a Governor, which is essentially the president of the state. So any real answers?

What do you want for an answer? When was the last time Mass went red in a presidential election? In the past 70 years Mass has voted for two republican presidents. Eisenhower and Reagan.

 

[emperus]

He was a terrible governor. He didn't run for a second term because he would have lost.

 

[Jaskalas]

Why isn't Romney competitive in Massachusetts?

Might as well ask why you don't know anything. Here's some data for you.

Cook Partisan Voting Index

Vermont D+13
Hawaii D+12
Massachusetts D+12

Top 3 Democrat states.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I lived in Western Mass briefly during Romney's tenure as governor; he was remarkably unpopular. But his focus, like most politicians in Massachussetts, was centralized on Boston and the Eastern half of the state, which is far more prosperous than the Western half which has been a poverty-stained shithole since all the manufacturing jobs got shipped overseas. It's no surprise people in Western Mass didn't like him, he ignored their issues to focus on the prosperity of Boston.

 

[Thump553]

He was a terrible governor. He didn't run for a second term because he would have lost.

This. They have first hand knowledge.


BTW if you drive anywhere in MA, you'll see tons of Brown (R Senate), Warren (D Senate) and Obama yard signs, but Romney Ryan signs are as rare as hen's teeth-maybe see one or two in a day's driving.

 

[Moonbeam]

His clown act doesn't sell with folk who already know he's a piece of shit.

 

[emperus]

Might as well ask why you don't know anything. Here's some data for you.

Cook Partisan Voting Index

Top 3 Democrat states.

So, how was he elected governor?

 

[buckshot24]

When was the last time a Republican won in MA?

 

[trenchfoot]

How about this: The powers that be anointed him and therefore he was. The masses who got fooled by the anointment and the campaign of deception that led up to his being anointed voted for him but wised up after evaluating his performance and policies while in office. They noticed who he was actually representing in the state and it wasn't the masses whose votes put him in office.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Mass is so dem leaning that offices are often a one candidate election. By default there is no opposition because the party machine is too strong, at least in non-federal elections. It's a one horse race and Tammany Hall wouldn't have it any other way. That doesn't mean that Romney is worth anything, but even if he was it wouldn't matter. Party uber alles.

 

[Thump553]

When was the last time a Republican won in MA?

Scott Brown-Senate 2010.

Willard Mitt Romney-Governor 2003-2007 (he filed papers to begin his six year campaign for the White House the day before his term ended).

There are tons of GOP state and local officials in MA. Until the GOP jumped the shark, New England was a bastion of the GOP, which the Dems basically limited to the big cities.

BTW Tammany Hall was NYC. Basically anything related to NY is despised in MA and vice versa.

 

[Todd33]

Might as well ask why you don't know anything. Here's some data for you.

Cook Partisan Voting Index

Top 3 Democrat states.

I wasn't asking for the raw data, I was asking for the reasons. If he was a successful and bipartisan governor then his own state would have a bias towards him. If not, why?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I lived in Western Mass briefly during Romney's tenure as governor; he was remarkably unpopular. But his focus, like most politicians in Massachussetts, was centralized on Boston and the Eastern half of the state, which is far more prosperous than the Western half which has been a poverty-stained shithole since all the manufacturing jobs got shipped overseas. It's no surprise people in Western Mass didn't like him, he ignored their issues to focus on the prosperity of Boston.

Spent ten years in a Boston burb, and the majority didn't really care where I was. Romney wasn't very good, but considering that graft and corruption are taken for granted on the part of both parties no one saw it as meaning anything. Anyone thinking that the Dems are the party of purity should have lived in my area during the last decade of the Big Dig. Reps wouldn't have been any better if they had the lock on government so the point is that party machines suck more than anything else.

Also what you describe in W.MA holds for us in Western and upstate NY. NYC runs albany and the Dems run that. We are owned by them and their chosen.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I lived in Western Mass briefly during Romney's tenure as governor; he was remarkably unpopular. But his focus, like most politicians in Massachusetts, was centralized on Boston and the Eastern half of the state, which is far more prosperous than the Western half which has been a poverty-stained shithole since all the manufacturing jobs got shipped overseas. It's no surprise people in Western Mass didn't like him, he ignored their issues to focus on the prosperity of Boston.

For Mass politicians that do not live outside 495; the state ends at 495. R or D, it makes no difference.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

For Mass politicians that do not live outside 495; the state ends at 495. R or D, it makes no difference.

That's what I was getting at with NY. Our area which exerts control is proportionally even smaller. Our incredible tax rates are dictated by policies set up by people who don't give us a second thought.

Coincidentally I asked my wife how much we'll have to spend to keep our home once we pay off the mortgage, meaning the tax bill per month.

Anyone want to take a guess on what that is on a 160k market value home?

 

[buckshot24]

Scott Brown-Senate 2010.

President!

 

[Moonbeam]

It's not an election about party. It's an election in which a man has been challenged by a chameleon who can be anything and has no real substance. The US does not need a phony for President. This would be true of Romney were a Democrat and acted as he does.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Basically, to be elected, he told everyone what they wanted to hear, just like he's doing now. However, when he was elected he didn't do anything. Ignored Central and Western MA and left us with money sucking Big Dig.

It's actually funny that he's going to spend election night in Boston when he's going to lose big in MA.

The current MA Governor's take on Romney:

http://www.boston.com/politicalinte...onal-voters/ptkiIbWjYcDE3pUQe3znHJ/story.html

 

[K1052]

That's what I was getting at with NY. Our area which exerts control is proportionally even smaller. Our incredible tax rates are dictated by policies set up by people who don't give us a second thought.

Coincidentally I asked my wife how much we'll have to spend to keep our home once we pay off the mortgage, meaning the tax bill per month.

Anyone want to take a guess on what that is on a 160k market value home?

Around 3K-5K a year I'd expect, depending on the exact county. Though it is still tax deductible...for now anyway.

 

[K1052]

Basically, to be elected, he told everyone what they wanted to hear, just like he's doing now. However, when he was elected he didn't do anything. Ignored Central and Western MA and left us with money sucking Big Dig.

It's actually funny that he's going to spend election night in Boston when he's going to lose big in MA.

The current MA Governor's take on Romney:

http://www.boston.com/politicalinte...onal-voters/ptkiIbWjYcDE3pUQe3znHJ/story.html

If it makes you feel any better the Big Dig is now essentially a textbook case of what not to do in large complex infrastructure projects. Thanks for the tips.

 

[EagleKeeper]

That's what I was getting at with NY. Our area which exerts control is proportionally even smaller. Our incredible tax rates are dictated by policies set up by people who don't give us a second thought.

Coincidentally I asked my wife how much we'll have to spend to keep our home once we pay off the mortgage, meaning the tax bill per month.

Anyone want to take a guess on what that is on a 160k market value home?

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