why is windows giving me this message???

trOver

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so im trying to put about 20 gigs of videos on my ipod. not videos i can play on the ipod, but .iso files. (so im using it as an external harddrive)

my question is, why is windows saying there is not enough free space, even though i just formatted?

i have the 30gig vid. ipod if that helps

thanks
 

Matthias99

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If you right-click on the iPod "drive" and select "Properties", how much space does it report free/total on the device?
 

Seekermeister

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It seems as though I read something lately about this kind of problem, and it had to do with Windows virtual memory becoming filled, rather than the HD itself.
 

trOver

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when i look at the freespace, there is plenty. There is only 300kb or so taken up, and over 27 gig available. What is that about windows virtual memory being filled?
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: trOver
when i look at the freespace, there is plenty. There is only 300kb or so taken up, and over 27 gig available. What is that about windows virtual memory being filled?

Okay... can you copy *any* files to the drive?

If you select all the files you want to copy and right-click and hit "Properties", what does it say the total size is? If it's more than the free space on the drive, it ain't gonna work. :p Maybe you're trying to copy more stuff than you think you are?
 

trOver

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noooo properties on the files is 18gb. My freespace is 27.

Also- i tried moving just like a word document, and it worked fine. How come bigger files (4.5gb) arnt working? i tried just moving one movie file, and that didnt work either.

what gives!?
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: trOver
noooo properties on the files is 18gb. My freespace is 27.

Also- i tried moving just like a word document, and it worked fine. How come bigger files (4.5gb) arnt working? i tried just moving one movie file, and that didnt work either.

what gives!?

Ah. The iPod is probably FAT32 format. FAT32 does not support files bigger than 2GB each, I think. If you can reformat it as NTFS, it will let you transfer bigger files -- but then it probably won't work as an iPod.
 

Seekermeister

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What is that about windows virtual memory being filled?
As I said, it was just something I read recently...on this forum in fact. I can't remember which thread it was, but I will try to find it. I would explain better if I could.
 

trOver

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well i will have to format it w/ ntfs. Then, i can just format it back or put rockbox on it later. i dont like the included apple software.
Thanks for the info
 

Seekermeister

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I remember part of it. When you look at the Page File usage in the Task Manager, it is not actually the amount of data contained in the PF, but the amount of memory that is being charted by an application or process. If that function exceeds the amount of virtual memory available, it might give a message such as the one that you got. I'm not certain about the best solution for this, but I would try temporarily increasing the size of the virtual memory, or if possible, divide the data to be copied into smaller chunks.

EDIT: Since you found a solution, it is just as well that my memory was slow.
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: trOver
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/convertfat.mspx

it worked! im now copying my files!

:thumbsup:

Seeker: this really has nothing to do with page files. You get different messages if you run out of VM space for a process -- and I've never heard of problems with running out of VM while copying files around in Windows. It doesn't really use much memory to copy them, no matter how big the files are, since in reality it transfers them block-by-block (or maybe in something like 64-128KB pieces).
 

gerwen

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Since the files were not to be used on the ipod, another option in this case would have been to use a file splitting program to break up the large files into pieces that could be copied to the ipod, and reassemble them later.

google got me this one: http://www.dekabyte.com/filesplitter/
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Matthias99
Originally posted by: trOver
noooo properties on the files is 18gb. My freespace is 27.

Also- i tried moving just like a word document, and it worked fine. How come bigger files (4.5gb) arnt working? i tried just moving one movie file, and that didnt work either.

what gives!?

Ah. The iPod is probably FAT32 format. FAT32 does not support files bigger than 2GB each, I think. If you can reformat it as NTFS, it will let you transfer bigger files -- but then it probably won't work as an iPod.

Yup, I had the same issue with one of our remote employee's who bought a 300 GB external drive that came formatted in FAT 32. It would shat itself on his 4.5 GB .pst file.
Unfortunately the error msg is not descriptive for the avg user to figure out the problem is the file system.

NTFS will fix this.