Why is W called "double-u"? Shouldn't it be called double-v?

Sc4freak

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Traditionally, lowercase "W" is a double-u. For some reason, typewriters and computer fonts seem to have made lowercase "W" just a smaller version of it, rather than the more natural double-u shape.
 

BlancoNino

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Capital or lower-case W's are supposed to be drawn like U's and not V's...if your lines are straight, you're not making it correctly. double-u is correct.
 

herbiehancock

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Originally posted by: BlancoNino
Capital or lower-case W's are supposed to be drawn like U's and not V's...if your lines are straight, you're not making it correctly. double-u is correct.



Wrong. A "W" is supposed to be drawn just as it appears, two "V's" linked together, not two "U's". If you actually cared, you could search up some books that atually teach how to teach printing the letters.....they are geared for teachers to teach schoolkids like 1st graders. Each letter has a definite and assigned sequence of strokes per letter. A "W" is correctly drawn as it looks, as two "V" letters joined, with straight lines for each line, no curved "U" shapes at all.

I know because I remember my mom going through having to replicate the entire alphabet's proper sequence of letter forms for teaching while she was getting her master's in education. Dumb class made them completely replicate the entire alphabet and numbers 0-9 on a test, complete with each stroke and direction, and pencil lift and placement. Sort of like each letter with arrows and numbers along each line representing the first stroke and direction, then lift pencil, then place pencil for second stroke, then second stroke and direction, the lift pencil, then place pencil for third stroke, then third stroke with direction, and on and on ad nauseum........it was stupid, but they all had to do it.

So, there is a definite way to shape each letter and a "W" is two "V's" connected, not two "U's". And it's not because of typewriters, because as you can see, a typewriter correctly shapes a "U" without problem, so two "U's" wouldn't be any problem at all. They're not shaped like a "U" because they're not supposed to be.
 

granolagirl

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Originally posted by: sonambulo
it is in spanish.
it is in french too


p.s. http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutenglish/doubleu

Why is 'w' pronounced 'double u' rather than 'double v', and what is the origins of this letter?

English uses the Latin alphabet of the Romans. However, this had no letter suitable for representing the phoneme /w/ which was used in Old English, though phonetically the sound represented by /v/ was quite close. In the 7th century scribes wrote uu for /w/; later they used the runic symbols known as wynn. European scribes had continued to write uu, and this usage returned to England with the Norman Conquest in 1066. Early printers sometimes used vv for lack of a w in their type. The name double-u recalls the former identity of u and v, which is also evident in a number of cognate words (flour/flower, guard/ward, suede/Swede, etc.).(Oxford Companion to the English Language)
 

Atlantean

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The reason its double u is because when letters were first being named, the man doing the naming of "w" looked at a few different styles of writing. He was going to go with double v, but then his wife said she thought it sounded stupid and it should be called double u. After a big arguement he realized that she was wrong, but if he wanted living with her to be tolerable he would have to give in and thus the name is double u instead of double v.
 

Montano

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Originally posted by: Tom
why is a pair of pants called a pair ?

I don't call it a pair. I jusy say 'where are my pants'?. I don't say 'where is my pair of pants'? :)
 
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Sometimes, I have trouble remembering if it's flammable or inflammable...
Then, I remember they are both the same thing and the in-prefix doesn't negate the meaning of the word.
 

avi85

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some time ago (hundreds of years ago) the "U" actually looked like a V (if anyone has ever seen History of the world Part I, all the "U"'s are written as V's in ancient rome) so a double-U looked like 2 V's but when they changed the "U" from a V to a U they left the "W" as it is
 
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in german they call it double V

or is it french? i dunno one or both of them have it said individually as double V
 

imported_Baloo

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Originally posted by: herbiehancock
Originally posted by: BlancoNino

I know because I remember my mom going through having to replicate the entire alphabet's proper s...blah blah blah


He knows becuase his mom showed him. Hey how many people here can cite stuff their mom's told them that were wrong? I can cite many things. ;-)


We are arguing fonts here. How it is curently done is not where the answer is going to be found. Rather, look up the history of the letter. UU is just as correct today as VV, so argiung what is a matter of opinion is not going to answer the question.

Why is the Letter "W" pronounced double-u?
 

BD2003

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V used to be used for U.

On some really old buildings you can see it. Like the mvsevm in NYC.
 

sao123

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additionally why does the letter C & X exist?

C could be replaced with S or K in all examples
X could be replacd with KS or Z in all examples

why isnt the U included in the Q? I dont believe there are any words with a Q without a U.