in the past it used to be everything was based off of quake engine. but now it seems like everything will be unreal and nothing is even out yet. is there a technical reason that makes it so superior to anything else out there like doom3, hl2? or is is just good timing in being the most current engine that'll coincide with the release of xbox360 and ps3?
why is unreal engine so popular suddenly
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Epic did a great job on their Unreal 3 engine, thats why. Technically it IS superior to Doom3 & HL2 in many areas. Coinciding with the release of xbox360 and ps3 was jackpot for Epic as both microsoft & sony signed them up.
Unreal 3 engine excites me but after looking at the video of the new engine by Crytek, I've switched sides. :evil:
Unreal 3 engine excites me but after looking at the video of the new engine by Crytek, I've switched sides. :evil:
If by 'suddenly' you mean in the last 5 years or so, it's because Epic has been constantly working on improving and updating their unreal engine, not only having clear generations of the Unreal Engine but games based on the engine 'up to that point' (improvements/refinements are ongoing).
Here's a (surprisingly long) list of most of the games using the Unreal or Unreal 2 Engine (borrowed from the Unreal forums):
Unreal 1
Return to Na Pali (expansion pack for Unreal 1)
Adventure Pinball
Rune
Nerf Arena Blast
Wheel of Time
Deus Ex
Klingon Honor Guard
DS9: The Fallen
Unreal Tournament
Mobile Forces
Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone
America's Army
Undying
Raven Shield
Unreal 2
Unreal Championship
Splinter Cell
Deus Ex 2
Unreal Tournament 2003
Unreal Tournament 2004
Devastation
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
New Legends (XBOX)
Desert Thunder
XCOM: Enforcer
XIII
Magic: The Gathering Battlegrounds
TNN Pro Hunter
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
Advent Rising
Pariah
Lineage 2
Dead Mans Hand
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Raindow Six Athena Sword
Shadow Ops: Red Mercury
Tribes: Vengeance
Men of Valor
Brothers in Arms
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Pretty impressive eh? When a developer chooses to use the Unreal Engine technology, they get to use the most current build of the Engine available, so someone using the Unreal 2 engine in 2004 would have some improved features/graphics/etc. over someone using Unreal 2 technology in 2003.
The Unreal 3 engine, with games based on it to come out in late 2006/2007, looks to be the most impressive yet, too!
Edit: here is the official list of games/Engine generations/etc. Pretty interesting...
Here's a (surprisingly long) list of most of the games using the Unreal or Unreal 2 Engine (borrowed from the Unreal forums):
Unreal 1
Return to Na Pali (expansion pack for Unreal 1)
Adventure Pinball
Rune
Nerf Arena Blast
Wheel of Time
Deus Ex
Klingon Honor Guard
DS9: The Fallen
Unreal Tournament
Mobile Forces
Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone
America's Army
Undying
Raven Shield
Unreal 2
Unreal Championship
Splinter Cell
Deus Ex 2
Unreal Tournament 2003
Unreal Tournament 2004
Devastation
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
New Legends (XBOX)
Desert Thunder
XCOM: Enforcer
XIII
Magic: The Gathering Battlegrounds
TNN Pro Hunter
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
Advent Rising
Pariah
Lineage 2
Dead Mans Hand
Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Raindow Six Athena Sword
Shadow Ops: Red Mercury
Tribes: Vengeance
Men of Valor
Brothers in Arms
Star Wars: Republic Commando
Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
Pretty impressive eh? When a developer chooses to use the Unreal Engine technology, they get to use the most current build of the Engine available, so someone using the Unreal 2 engine in 2004 would have some improved features/graphics/etc. over someone using Unreal 2 technology in 2003.
The Unreal 3 engine, with games based on it to come out in late 2006/2007, looks to be the most impressive yet, too!
Edit: here is the official list of games/Engine generations/etc. Pretty interesting...
I suspect unreal is the most flexible and have the best tools for developing games with. Unreal 2+ engine isn't amazingly pretty compared to doom 3 or even hl 2 but I suspect it's pretty enough and is the easiest to write games for. It also has a good ogl render for linux/macs, runs on xbox, etc.
Unreal 3 seems to be adding too that - it runs on all next gen consoles and is even easier to develop for. It's noticeable that for the other engines such as doom's, farcry's and hl2 you didn't get many developers announcing they were going to use that engine before the game (e.g. doom) was released. With U3 there already seems to be lots of games in the pipeline, I suspect that engine will be everywhere.
Unreal 3 seems to be adding too that - it runs on all next gen consoles and is even easier to develop for. It's noticeable that for the other engines such as doom's, farcry's and hl2 you didn't get many developers announcing they were going to use that engine before the game (e.g. doom) was released. With U3 there already seems to be lots of games in the pipeline, I suspect that engine will be everywhere.
was gonna say, Unreal engines been in the spot light since the first one, it hasnt just suddenly appeared to be good, its always been good
the best bit about them is the multiple API support. you can use OpenGL,D3D if you want, i remember Unreal 1 had Glide as well! Unreal 2 you could use Dx9 not that it did anything mind
not to mention the sheer amount of mods out there, its obviously easy to get to grips with the developer side of the engine, they supply the right tools for you along with the game.
isure U2 isnt as pretty as HL2, but the graphics engine is still pretty much DX7/8. even so it seems easy to use on all platforms which is why it ended up on consoles, can be used on linux etc.
and the main thing i think is that they can make a great engine that provides lots of features and it'll run like melted butter on alot of hardware
That's it right there. For being one of the more powerful engines in development, it also has some of the best development tools.
Demonstration video: http://www.pqhp.com/cmp/gdctv/ (scroll 3 down to Tim Sweeney)
Unreal Engine 3 is a monstrosity of a DX9 engine.
It is the 1st, true, built from the ground up, DX9C and SM3.0 engine.
The only thing that even comes close is the new generation cry engine, which is still far off.
It is the 1st, true, built from the ground up, DX9C and SM3.0 engine.
The only thing that even comes close is the new generation cry engine, which is still far off.
I think UE3.0 is overkill at this point. Barely anyone can run the demoes with decent framerates. I think the Doom3/Quake4 engine will step in for the meantime.
UE3 is still next gen technology, and games aren't going to be out until next year.
I would like to know what demos you have seen, and what you know about how final engines will run on current (6800/7800) cards, after it's all been optimised.
If you are privvy to information then please do tell us what the future holds.
Really? Where is your proof to back up this claim?
There are already quite a few recent games based on the Unreal Engine 2 engine and more on the way (remember, it's not a fixed thing with Unreal, there are constantly improved builds).
The recent Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow (which you seem to love to talk about) is based on a 2004 build of the Unreal 2 Engine.
Btw, Doom3 is the game with the engine; Quake4 is simply a game based on this engine.
Here is the list of Doom3 engine games that I have heard announced so far:
Doom3 (no brainer)
Doom3: resurrection of evil
Quake 4
Prey
a sequel to Return to Castle Wolfenstein
That's all I've heard of so far.
Next-gen developers are hopping on the Unreal Engine 3 technology bandwaggon like crazy. Remember, UE4 has been apparently in development for 2 years; UE3 is pretty mature as an engine; they're mostly developing games for it now (which, as you know, takes awhile).
There is no such thing as overkill in the PC video game industry. When Doom3 began development, they had to be as foreward thinking as possible, so they updated the code to be a SM 2.0+ game with extremely heavy stencil shadow usage that turned out to need a modern video card to run smoothly at launch.
Look to the recent F.E.A.R. demo to see what's coming in the pipeline (no pun intended): more and more complex games.
Unfortunately, there is no "meantime" in the gaming world. You have to pick your engine first and then spend 1-3 years (or over 6 if you're making a Duke Nukem sequel
) actually designing the game. Or of course you could build an engine from scratch, as companies like Crytek have done. As long as you've got the time, that is another possible route to take.Have you even seen the demo videos that where taken with a camcorder of a PC running Unreal 3?
From what I remember the PC was running 2 7800GTXs in SLI and the game ran smooth as silk. If that is true I am confident that my dinky 6800GT w/ an Athlon 64 3400+ will run the game just fine with some settings turned down.
The indication I had was from the first 6800Ultra demo running at around 25fps. The 6800 is still "next-gen" for a lot of people including myself.
apoppin
Lifer
nonsense . . . the 6600 is the reported minimum card for UE3 . . .
and i believe we are at UnrealEngine 2.5 right now.
apoppin
Lifer
Wow, never knew those games used the Unreal engine. Usually when I play a game based on another engine, I can immediately tell, there are just certain things that just jump out, but those games seemed to hide it very well.
I'm surprised no one has really jumped on the source engine, that one seems really well designed.
Will unreal 4 engine be DirectX 10 like the next Get Cry engine or could the U3 engine be DX 10 as well.
My favorite part from the Cry engine video was when the guy moved and the leaves moved out of his way in a very realistic manner. And in general how detailed the plants are. A major step over what I have see now. I want to see games that are that good.
When is DX10 coming out? With Vista? And DX10 graphics cards?
My favorite part from the Cry engine video was when the guy moved and the leaves moved out of his way in a very realistic manner. And in general how detailed the plants are. A major step over what I have see now. I want to see games that are that good.
When is DX10 coming out? With Vista? And DX10 graphics cards?
a lot of that was the work of a ppu, directx10 no longer is tied to vista, xp users will be able to use it
unreal tournament is coming out this year, its supposed to be around november so calling it vapourware is pointless
and it will probably run medium settings on my 6800gt
unreal tournament is coming out this year, its supposed to be around november so calling it vapourware is pointless
and it will probably run medium settings on my 6800gt
I think the reason why the Unreal Engines are so good is as some ppl say its the tools are easy to use.
But also for the fact is smaller and smaller dev groups can start using it in more efficient ways. I bet for licsensing agreements its actually quite easy and cost efficient to buy. And that Epic know how to sell their engines, and thats to do it years in advance. Not when its just released.
And the fact that the Unreal Engines looks like it can be upgraded very well when times move ahead. Just look at SC:CT.
But also for the fact is smaller and smaller dev groups can start using it in more efficient ways. I bet for licsensing agreements its actually quite easy and cost efficient to buy. And that Epic know how to sell their engines, and thats to do it years in advance. Not when its just released.
And the fact that the Unreal Engines looks like it can be upgraded very well when times move ahead. Just look at SC:CT.
You talk about the plants moving as the guy walked past.
Ive actually seen that elsewhere, Hitman Codename 47, but in the sequels they seemed to have taken that out. It was cool tho.
apoppin
Lifer
WRONG. NOT Vapourware! Unreal3 Engine is FINISHED and we will see the FIRST game using it THIS year.
i care.
:roll:
:thumbsdown:
where did you hear it's going to be out in november ? gamespot says 2006 but I would love to have it this year....
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