Rant Why is the Vaccine rollout so bad!!!

[13Gigatons]

With all the Tech, Analytics and Datamining that has been occurred it should be a breeze to get a G**D*** vaccine shot in this country.

They know exactly where all the old people live and probably all the sick people as well but it's a complete cluster****.

I'm just sick of all the excuses and the complete incompetence.

 

[bbhaag]

Why you sound so anxious bro? It might take some time but eventually your turn will come. I mean I know Americans aren't exactly known for being the most patient of people but shit bro it's not like we can snap 400 million doses into existence and the infrastructure to administer them.

 

[BudAshes]

Because there are hundreds of millions of us and it's only been a few weeks.

 

[Red Squirrel]

It's doing horrible here in Canada lol. At the current rate everyone should get vaccinated by around 2300 or so.

 

[13Gigatons]

Why you sound so anxious bro? It might take some time but eventually your turn will come. I mean I know Americans aren't exactly known for being the most patient of people but shit bro it's not like we can snap 400 million doses into existence and the infrastructure to administer them.

It's for people who are elderly....should be easier to sign them up and get it done.

 

[bbhaag]

C'mon man.....the "elderly"......fuckin a. I'd buy that for a dollar.

 

[deadlyapp]

Have you seen the average old person and how tech illiterate they are? The only possible way you could possibly make it more effective is by going door to door using census data, and since the states are the ones administering the shots, I suspect they can't get targeted census data like that.

I think they've been certainly trying, but I honest to god think this staggered approach that many states is taking is just butchering the roll out. I don't dispute that those at higher risk should have the first shot, but why not just let everyone register, and you prioritize those to the top for when vaccines are received, give them a 24-48 hour window to register, and if they don't, you just move on to the next person.

At the end of the day, a shot in an arm benefits everyone. A shot down the drain because you couldn't get it into the "right" person is useless to everyone.

The only thing I've seen bad in the rollout thus far here (in Houston) was terrible tech glitches because the registration servers couldn't handle the load. There are also some hospitals/clinics that are doing it first come / first served on registration, so the more tech saavy or those with disposable time are getting appointments ahead of those who really need it more.

 

[Insomniator]

I think 37 million people in a month is pretty good. The older people in my family have had no problems, got their first shot a week or so ago.

How fast do you expect it to be possible to administer vaccines? Need people to make, ship, store, track, administer them etc...

 

[WelshBloke]

I thought that the US was one of the better countries at running this out.

If you take out the special cases you are very near the top.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research

Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. The population estimates we use to calculate per-capita metrics are all based on the last revision of the United Nations World Population Prospects. A full list of our country-specific...

ourworldindata.org

See Which Country Is Leading the Global Race to Vaccinate (Published 2021)

Half of Israelis could receive at least one vaccine dose within a month, while the United States and Europe have been slower to reach their populations.

www.nytimes.com

Countries with highest COVID vaccination dose rates 2023 | Statista

As of March 2023, the countries with the highest COVID vaccination dose rates worldwide included Cuba and Japan.

www.statista.com

 

[Ajay]

With all the Tech, Analytics and Datamining that has been occurred it should be a breeze to get a G**D*** vaccine shot in this country.

They know exactly where all the old people live and probably all the sick people as well but it's a complete cluster****.

I'm just sick of all the excuses and the complete incompetence.

Ask the previous administration why they didn't do more to coordinate with the states to ensure a more professional rollout. Oh wait, they gutted or belittled any agency that could actually help . Oh, and money to the state - fuck that, here's a few million, now shut up.

 

[Jon-T]

I thought that the US was one of the better countries at running this out.

If you take out the special cases you are very near the top.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Vaccinations - Statistics and Research

Our vaccination dataset uses the most recent official numbers from governments and health ministries worldwide. The population estimates we use to calculate per-capita metrics are all based on the last revision of the United Nations World Population Prospects. A full list of our country-specific...

ourworldindata.org

See Which Country Is Leading the Global Race to Vaccinate (Published 2021)

Half of Israelis could receive at least one vaccine dose within a month, while the United States and Europe have been slower to reach their populations.

www.nytimes.com

Countries with highest COVID vaccination dose rates 2023 | Statista

As of March 2023, the countries with the highest COVID vaccination dose rates worldwide included Cuba and Japan.

www.statista.com

All the result of Trump's actions.

 

[Svnla]

It's doing horrible here in Canada lol. At the current rate everyone should get vaccinated by around 2300 or so.

We (US) only need 7 more years. Oh yeaaaahhhhh ...number one baby!!!!!!!! /s

When Will Covid Pandemic End? Vaccine Calculator Shows 7 Years at Current Rate - Bloomberg

.<maybe...crossing fingers>

 

[MtnMan]

There is a thread for that, in the P&N area, because the answer is political. https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...congress-against-funds.2590294/#post-40426928

The short answer!

Trump

 

[Insomniator]

We (US) only need 7 more years. Oh yeaaaahhhhh ...number one baby!!!!!!!! /s

When Will Covid Pandemic End? Vaccine Calculator Shows 7 Years at Current Rate - Bloomberg

.<maybe...crossing fingers>

That is saying 11 months for US.

 

[ondma]

It is a total cluster f***. I know there is not enough vaccine, but the problems are much more serious than that. There is simply no organized plan to distribute the vaccine, even if it were available. I live in Minnesota, and the plan seems to change weekly. First week, there were about 10 a community distribution sites, but the sign up web site crashed.

Second week, you could sign up, but had to go on a lottery. No way to reapply for the waiting list, but supposedly more names will be taken, although now the sites seem to be closed except for second injections. Now they are claiming about 50 new sites, but none of them are taking applications, except for those over 75 who are already members of the networks that are operating the sites. Now pharmacies are supposed to start giving shots, but none of them are accepting applications either.

I gave Walz and the MN health system very good marks for handling prevention, in spite of a lot of opposition from Republicans trying to limit his powers, but the Vaccine roll out has been just the opposite. Not only is it confusing for seniors who may not be tech savvy, it constantly changes from week to week, amplifying the confusion.

 

[BudAshes]

They have been doing a good job of vaccinating health care workers/first responders. Basically everyone I know in those fields is already vaccinated here in California.

It's going to be very difficult to vaccinate all the old people, there is just no way around it. I don't think it was a great idea to try and vaccinate them first unless they were already in care homes or hospitals. The logistics are too difficult. Better to just get started with everyone than trying to target the most difficult population.

 

[dullard]

Instead of a coordinated rollout with planning started March 2020, we have 2800 health districts all trying to figure out how to roll it out, all in the last few weeks.

I honestly can't figure out why 2800 different sets of rules with 2800 different phone numbers/websites and 2800 different signup lists is the better way. But, any time centralized functions for everyone is mentioned, it turns into a political disaster with people up in arms about socialized control.

Why on Earth did all of the local sites wait until now to start making websites to sign up? We knew this was coming, we knew the vaccine was on a rushed timeline. We all should have been signed up and categorized a half year ago. Then when the actual vaccines and quantities are known, we could have been given a target date window. Yes, priorities and quantities change and thus the dates may change. But a changed date is far better than our inability to get to a website or call anyone due to a crush of hundreds of millions of people trying all at once to get registered. Heck, I finally got signed up in my local health department only to find out two weeks later that it was being cancelled and maybe my registration might be sent to a state one. So, am I still registered? I don't know. I certainly can't get onto the clogged state website or phones to find out.

I realize that there are difficulties, such as trouble reaching some groups (those without internet, those without permanent residency, those that are undocumented, etc). I realize that it does take time to give out half a billion shots. I realize that the winter storms are making it worse. But, we really set ourselves out on the wrong foot here by not being ready many months ago.



Actually what really bothers me is that most of the people that I know personally that are fully vaccinated just recently recovered from Covid-19 just before getting the vaccine. You know, the people least likely to need to be first in line...

 

[Jon-T]

We (US) only need 7 more years. Oh yeaaaahhhhh ...number one baby!!!!!!!! /s

When Will Covid Pandemic End? Vaccine Calculator Shows 7 Years at Current Rate - Bloomberg

.<maybe...crossing fingers>

The article you linked says that at the current rate the US will take 11 months, however, as pointed out in the linked article the pace will continue to increase resulting in a shorter time frame.

The 7 year figure is for world numbers, Please remove the US reference from your post and replace it with podunkastan.

Also, going forward please read the article and understand it. Posting misinformation does no one any good.