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Why is the Radeon 7000 still made and sold?

AnitaPeterson

AnitaPeterson

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Can anyone please explain how come the Radeon 7000 is still being manufactured and sold? I mean, really... this is a card that came out at the same time as the original GF2... and nobody in their right mind would make or sell new GF2 cards, even though they'd probably spank the 7000 senseless...

Among current cards, the oldest GPU from Nvidia is the MX4000 (roughly the performance of the MX440, from what I surmise) so then, how come this ATI dinosaur is still in production?
 
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Can anyone please explain how come the Radeon 7000 is still being manufactured and sold? I mean, really... this is a card that came out at the same time as the original GF2... and nobody in their right mind would make or sell new GF2 cards, even though they'd probably spank the 7000 senseless...

Among current cards, the oldest GPU from Nvidia is the MX4000 (roughly the performance of the MX440, from what I surmise) so then, how come this ATI dinosaur is still in production?
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Well, first off, I'm not sure how many of them are still being "produced". ATI certainly isn't making any more R1XX GPUs. There's probably just a backlog of them, and what, you expect the stores to just throw them away?

Second, the GF4MX basically *is* a Geforce2 (it's faster, but not by much). It doesn't have the same featureset as the GF4Ti line.
 
Some people still desire (read OEMs) a cheap card with solid 2D. iirc there's also a PCI variant which is nice to have if you need to test whether your AGP port is dead (I keep a really old PCI ATI Rage3D card for that purpose) Then again, it could have sold like crap and there's a lot of old stock in the market.
 
Originally posted by: Matthias99

Second, the GF4MX basically *is* a Geforce2 (it's faster, but not by much). It doesn't have the same featureset as the GF4Ti line.
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Didn't the GF4MX line come out two years after the Radeon VE, though?

bar81, true... I still have a Rage IIc to play with when I want to test things out... )
 
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
Originally posted by: Matthias99

Second, the GF4MX basically *is* a Geforce2 (it's faster, but not by much). It doesn't have the same featureset as the GF4Ti line.
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Didn't the GF4MX line come out two years after the Radeon VE, though?
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Yes, but it's still basically a repackaged GF2 core. It may be faster than the R7000, but it's still one of the oldest/slowest parts you can buy today, and it's a DX7 GPU.

Edit:

Here's some retro benchmark goodness from THG. The R7500 is competitive with the GF4MX (which is about as fast as a GF2Ti/Ultra, at least in some tests), but the R7000 is a real dog. The 64-bit memory just kills it (although I'm pretty sure there were GF4MX cards with 64-bit memory as well, which would also perform horribly).

Here's pretty much every video card from an ATI RAGE/TNT2 up to an X800XT/6800U. No R7000, but they do have the 7200 and 7500.
 
GF4MX is just GF2MX with a new name on (essentially), and so is the MX4000. Just like the Radeon 7000, that's all low-end DX7 hardware.

Why are they still here?

Because a lot of people want no more than good 2D - and in the case of the Radeon, it's also the cheapest method of getting PROPERLY WORKING (!) DVI into an office machine.
 
Originally posted by: Peter
GF4MX is just GF2MX with a new name on (essentially), and so is the MX4000. Just like the Radeon 7000, that's all low-end DX7 hardware.

Why are they still here?

Because a lot of people want no more than good 2D - and in the case of the Radeon, it's also the cheapest method of getting PROPERLY WORKING (!) DVI into an office machine.
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qft. why buy a 6800ultra for word and firefox?
 
i doubt those 7000 series cards are still being made...some are still available in shops since ppl havent purchased them thats all....ATI has stopped producing 9700pro cards so u can forget bout 7000pro.
 
I have P3-800 with a 4x AGP port.

When the Radeon 7000 graphics card died earlier this year I replaced it with another one. I saw no point in spending more than $40 to replace a card that was displaying graphics just fine before. As a bonus the newer 7000 cards come with DVI.

This card now runs my 2405FPW monitor. This may actually be a record for the technology differential between the graphics card and monitor. I might have the slowest graphics card running this monitor in the U.S.
 
My point exactly ... and you won't be beat - simply because you won't find an older graphics chip than the R7000 that actually can feed this resolution through DVI.
 
Think about it. You run an office with 50 PCs. Mostly accounting folks, admin assistants, maybe a few IT guys. The most expensive piece software will probably be MSOffice. Would you really want to spend the money and install 6800's in their machines so they can do email?

My company built together hundreds of PCs for our clients. We go through a lot of Radeon 7000s. Prior to that, alot of Rage128 Pros. For the job intended, they are more than enough and helps to keep the costs down for both us and our clients.
 
I just upgraded several workstations in our office to dual monitors (free/cheap 17" LCD deals from Dell) and wanted to use DVI for the second displays. These stations already had one card with a single DVI output so I wanted to have both the monitors on DVI. Personally I'm very glad that I was able to find some Radeon 7000 PCI cards (no AGP in the systems either) with quality DVI ouputs for a very decent price.

I got great DVI 2D quality, PCI interface for compatibility with non-AGP systems, fast enough to do some simple gaming if the boss gets bored, all at 1/4 the price or less of even the lower end "modern" video cards that do things these stations will never need. Good deal all around. For people that don't need 100+ FPS at maximum quality in Doom3, these cards are a very worthwhile purchase and won't break the bank.
 
Originally posted by: chinkgai
Hey Anita Peterson,

Do you happen to know Anita Palm and her five sisters?

jk
lol, couldnt resist
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WTF, mate? How about a hearty "yob tvoyu maty", in reply to your threadcrap?
 
the desktops made by dell a t my school all have 16mb rage cards- crappy as hell, yet they work fine. no 3d games, but dells are cheap and we get them in bulk packs so they made a deal with ati. there is a use for them still.
 
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
WTF, mate? How about a hearty "yob tvoyu maty", in reply to your threadcrap?
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whoa there buddy, i wasnt tryin to offend you or anything. i wasnt aware you were selling something, so excuse my "threadcrap"

also, i have no idea what u said in quotes
 
I did a google for....yob tvoyu maty........
and here's the result........

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now you know what it means..LOL
 
I have an "old" Radeon 7000.

As has been mentioned, they are awesome value & still do great for all non-gaming stuff 🙂
 
The 7000 is a nice little dual 2D/DVD card with passive cooling. I keep one in my drawer in case a need a temporary card for testing purposes.
 
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