Why is the line so wide between age of consent and parental consent?

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blackangst1

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Imagine being the parent of a 15 year old girl and finding out she had an abortion. Now imagine the high school she attends not only administered the preggy test, but paid for the taxi cab to and from the appt, and the abortion itself? I remember when I was a kid you couldnt even get an aspirin without parental consent, and now we have this kind of thing, which apperently is going on in many states. I also know, at least in WA state, if a teen older than 14 runs away and is found by law enforcement, they are not required to notify the parents. I think its about time we lower the age of consent to 15. I really cant see a reason not to with news like this.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/03/25/school-abortion-and-more/?test=latestnews

School-Assisted Abortion a Shocking Lesson

March 25, 2010 - 10:37 AM | by: Dan Springer
Parents of school children in Seattle are learning a shocking lesson, when it comes to some very important decisions they don't have a say. The mother of a 15-year old girl recently discovered that Ballard High School helped her daughter get an abortion and never informed her.

But it doesn't end there. The school can also send children off campus for mental health care and drug addiction treatment without their parents ever knowing. Supporters say the confidentiality allows teens who are too afraid to tell mom and dad to get necessary treatment.

Parents signed consent forms for off-school treatment thinking it was limited to emergency health care when the parents could not be reached. But the teen health clinics at 14 Seattle schools are about much more. They have a full-time registered nurse, counselor and nursing assistant on hand to help kids with more sensitive issues.

When the 15-year old girl's pregnancy was confirmed, they counseled her on the options. The mother says they encouraged her to have an abortion and not tell her parents. She claims her daughter was told that if she informed her parents they would have to pay for the abortion, otherwise it's free.
The teen clinics are administered by the King County Health Department. Officials say school clinic workers are supposed to encourage girls to include their parents in the decision. They will not comment on the specifics of the case.

As for the fact the girl was called a taxi and transported by herself to a clinic to have her abortion then driven back to finish her school day, officials say that's not unusual. They would not say how many girls have been helped to have an abortion.

Washington State is one of thirteen states that does not have either a parental consent or parental notification law. Girls of any age can obtain an abortion without having to tell a parent.

State lawmakers included mental health care and drug counseling on the list of services kids can get without parental notification.


And before you whine about the source, I'll add this one: http://www.google.com/search?q=15+y...7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=
 
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Matthiasa

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Umm what does age of consent have to do with any of that?
Get a better tread title.
 

Hacp

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I have no problems with this except that all this must be paid for SOMEHOW. I hope taxpayer dollars aren't being wasted just because some 15 year old couldn't take a stupid pill.
 

ch33zw1z

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I have no problems with this except that all this must be paid for SOMEHOW. I hope taxpayer dollars aren't being wasted just because some 15 year old couldn't take a stupid pill.

Well if the rents aren't footing the bill, who do you think is...
 

ShawnD1

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I have no problems with this except that all this must be paid for SOMEHOW. I hope taxpayer dollars aren't being wasted just because some 15 year old couldn't take a stupid pill.
On the other hand, if the reason she didn't use the pill or condoms was because she's an uneducated fundy, she'd probably end up keeping that child because her fundy parents refuse to pay for an abortion. Guess who pays for it when her unemployed ass can't.

Seems like more of a moral issue. Parents should be informed. School should not be involved in the decision making process of "what do we do now?" because it's none of their business.
 

Patranus

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Schools shouldn't be involved with any of this in the first place.
They wonder why public schools are in the shitter.

If they spent 1/2 the time they spend on BS on actual subjects like reading, writing, math, and science......
 

MotF Bane

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That's ridiculous. It's a medical procedure, the school should not be doing this, and they're abusing the hell out of the consent form.
 

HomerJS

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Parents signed consent forms for off-school treatment thinking it was limited to emergency health care when the parents could not be reached. But the teen health clinics at 14 Seattle schools are about much more. They have a full-time registered nurse, counselor and nursing assistant on hand to help kids with more sensitive issues.

"Thinking it was limited to emergency health care" Did parents actually read the full consent form?

Why would a consent form be needed anyway? If a 15 yr old collapes in the street an ambulance would not need a consent form to take them to the hospital.
 

MotF Bane

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"Thinking it was limited to emergency health care" Did parents actually read the full consent form?

Why would a consent form be needed anyway? If a 15 yr old collapes in the street an ambulance would not need a consent form to take them to the hospital.

From what I remember, the consent "form" was usually a sentence or two. There's not much to them.
 

fallout man

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The mother should have been more involved in her daughter's life.

If you care and watch out for your kids, the "oops I'm preggo" excuse is not valid. Faux rage from some vapid broad who can't connect with her kid--a child who resolved to seek help outside of the trust and privacy of her family. Family bond fail--check. Family trust fail--check.

Boo hoo. Why don't you bother actually parenting next time around, dumbass.

Edit: I now put on my magical religious-conservative wingnut hat:

I wonder if the mother was receiving welfare checks!!!?!?!?! WELFARE QUEEENEEEENEEE!!! I'm sure she's doing CRACK. Chances are she VOTED FOR OBAMA!!!1

THeSe PeOpLe JUST KEEP BREEEDING OH WAI......,

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Think of this as a tax-cut, you self-righteous wingnut motherfuckers.
 
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DanDaManJC

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The mother should have been more involved in her daughter's life.

If you care and watch out for your kids, the "oops I'm preggo" excuse is not valid. Faux rage from some vapid broad who can't connect with her kid--a child who resolved to seek help outside of the trust and privacy of her family. Family bond fail--check. Family trust fail--check.

Boo hoo. Why don't you bother actually parenting next time around, dumbass.

This. And she aborted a kid she won't be able to support. kudos for that.
 

fallout man

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This. And she aborted a kid she won't be able to support. kudos for that.

Thank you.

Nothing upsets me more that self-righteous motherfuckers preaching about how abortion is so wrong.

"Oh, there are so many couples waiting to adopt, robble robble robble."

Fuck you guys. The reality is that the combination of laws and regulations leads barren couples in the States to seek adoptions abroad. They seek them out because they want to adopt "babies," not "children." It's the same exact hypocrisy you see when you listen to people bitching about "killing babies (non-viable fetuses)," while they are vehemently opposed to tax hikes that help fund programs which the state needs to care for the these unwanted babies once they stop being cute enough to adopt.

Christian values my ass. If you care so much about saving babies, why don't you get a part-time job and donate your earnings to a charity that houses all these unwanted kids you want to bring into their world of misery. Instead, you fuckers bite your lip, try to feign the moral high-ground, and make the rest of us share the cost of your folly.

Eat a dick.

DON'T TREAD ON ME!!!111!!!111*#*$#&(*$&#(
 
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