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Why is the GOP all giddy an ambassador was killed?

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emperus

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I would think that we were Americans first. What is the GOP trying to achieve out of this tragedy other then gain cheap political points?

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dank69

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Haven't you been paying attention? The number ONE priority for America is getting the Muslim OUT of the White House. It doesn't matter how many Americans we have to hurt to do it. This does not mean I think the GOP hurt the Ambassador, incase some fuckwit tries to spin it that way.
 

PokerGuy

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I haven't seen any gop-er be "giddy" that anyone was killed. Leftists think that pointing out stupidity of the administration is the same as trying to score "cheap political points". What the president and his minions allowed to happen is shameful, and the subsequent lying pretending it was all about a movie was even more disgraceful. Pointing that out has nothing to do with cheap political points and everything to do with pointing out the failures of the administration.
 

Phokus

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I haven't seen any gop-er be "giddy" that anyone was killed. Leftists think that pointing out stupidity of the administration is the same as trying to score "cheap political points". What the president and his minions allowed to happen is shameful, and the subsequent lying pretending it was all about a movie was even more disgraceful. Pointing that out has nothing to do with cheap political points and everything to do with pointing out the failures of the administration.


 

PokerGuy

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Oh look, some cherry picked still shots from video to pretend that someone is "giddy", even though you have absolutely no idea what he might be thinking about. Sad and quite pathetic. Don't you leftists have any legitimate points of attack to use?
 

werepossum

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I haven't seen any gop-er be "giddy" that anyone was killed. Leftists think that pointing out stupidity of the administration is the same as trying to score "cheap political points". What the president and his minions allowed to happen is shameful, and the subsequent lying pretending it was all about a movie was even more disgraceful. Pointing that out has nothing to do with cheap political points and everything to do with pointing out the failures of the administration.
This, exactly.
 

Dedpuhl

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Conservatives have learned well from liberals.

You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.

No one is giddy over this situation; however, they are using it to point out the obvious breakdown in communication.
 

dank69

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Oh look, some cherry picked still shots from video to pretend that someone is "giddy", even though you have absolutely no idea what he might be thinking about. Sad and quite pathetic. Don't you leftists have any legitimate points of attack to use?
Pretending to be not familiar with that press conference, are we?
 

Charles Kozierok

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This same garbage happens no matter who is in power. The ones not in power look for any problem or issue and pounce on it, and then the ones in power accuse the other side of being "giddy about bad news".

The one notable counter-example to this was 9/11. The Dems handled that a lot better than the GOP would have had the shoes been on opposite feet.

Conservatives have learned well from liberals.

You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.
I didn't realize Bush and Cheney were liberals. They pretty much set the standard for using a crisis to get something they wanted.
 

PokerGuy

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Pretending to be not familiar with that press conference, are we?
Smirking at the incompetence and stupidity of obummer and his administration doesn't mean he's "giddy" about someone getting killed. You seem to be doubling down on the OP's fail.
 

EagleKeeper

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No so much that a person was killed; but it again demonstrates a breakdown in the way the Obama administration breakdown with the exchange of critical information.

Field person says we need help
REMF says tough
Administration denies that it is terror related
2 weeks later, the Admin reverses course - this is terror related.
Biden states that the administration knew nothing of the request
It waa pointed out that State knew and said no.
Administration later says that they did not know of the issue
- begs the question was this of so little importance that State did not tell the WH of the problem but buried it.

Incompetence being displayed again of critical information not being channeled due to fiefdoms.
 

Charles Kozierok

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The only problem, EagleKeeper, is that Romney jumped on the issue before anyone knew that there had been any "breakdown". His behavior was shameful.
 

dank69

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Smirking at the incompetence and stupidity of obummer and his administration doesn't mean he's "giddy" about someone getting killed. You seem to be doubling down on the OP's fail.
You know damn well that Romney had no idea what had actually happened at the time of that conference. Doubling down on your denial.
 

PokerGuy

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You know damn well that Romney had no idea what had actually happened at the time of that conference. Doubling down on your denial.
Again, regardless of what you think of Romney's conference, describing him as "giddy" that someone was killed is plain stupid. Complete fail. If you want to attack Romney about prematurely holding a press conference before all the facts were known, feel free to do so, that would be a legitimate issue.

What's amazing is that the leftist media has decided to completely ignore the massive failures of the administration in this case (and the subsequent lies), but instead wants to turn it and cast blame on Romney instead. There's no bias though :whiste:
 

momeNt

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This same garbage happens no matter who is in power. The ones not in power look for any problem or issue and pounce on it, and then the ones in power accuse the other side of being "giddy about bad news".

The one notable counter-example to this was 9/11. The Dems handled that a lot better than the GOP would have had the shoes been on opposite feet.



I didn't realize Bush and Cheney were liberals. They pretty much set the standard for using a crisis to get something they wanted.
One "crisis" that they used, the GOP has learned from, preemptive wars without the legitimate loss of American life. With the ease they now have of getting American ambassadors killed, it will be quite easy to start "legitimate" wars at will.
 

zinfamous

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Republicans in congress have their own skeletons to answer for when they twice voted down funding for the state department--you know, the money that was needed to keep the guards in place for the time allotted.

This was Issa that voted it down, btw. And Chutzekkawhatshisface.

THe investigation has determined that an allotment of extra marines/security (which was never requested) would not have significantly thwarted this attack. The embassy only requested that the current guards assigned to their post, at the time, be allowed to continue past their contracted time period. This was disallowed because, well, Issa denied them the funds.

anyway, it's political horseshit played out by scummery.
 

Carfax83

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The only problem, EagleKeeper, is that Romney jumped on the issue before anyone knew that there had been any "breakdown". His behavior was shameful.
There's nothing wrong with a political rival exposing the administration's incompetence/negligence.

Anyone with sense knew that the attack on the embassy in Libya was a terrorist attack for a number of reasons:

1) The attack occurred on 9/11

2) The youtube video was released way back in July

3) Random mobs aren't well armed with rocket launchers, mortars etc...

I suppose stupidity and the left go hand in hand though :p
 

zinfamous

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What's amazing is that the leftist media has decided to completely ignore the massive failures of the administration in this case (and the subsequent lies), but instead wants to turn it and cast blame on Romney instead. There's no bias though :whiste:

uhhuh...right. because only the "leftist media" was criticizing his timing the moment he called that press conference.

 

Charles Kozierok

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There's nothing wrong with a political rival exposing the administration's incompetence/negligence.
There is when he's going off half-cocked with no actual knowledge of what is going on, and makes himself look so partisan and obnoxious that even people on his side criticize him for it.
 

Moonbeam

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I haven't seen any gop-er be "giddy" that anyone was killed. Leftists think that pointing out stupidity of the administration is the same as trying to score "cheap political points". What the president and his minions allowed to happen is shameful, and the subsequent lying pretending it was all about a movie was even more disgraceful. Pointing that out has nothing to do with cheap political points and everything to do with pointing out the failures of the administration.
Shane and disgust, shame and disgust, appealing to the brain of reptiles. Why didn't that stupid shameful Bush nuke Afghanistan when he knew plans were afoot to harm thousands of innocent Americans. That disgusting fucker's lack of capacity to comprehend intelligence reports killed thousands of Americans. Shove that up your ass and smoke it.

And trust me, you don't have the faintest idea what I am really saying.
 

EagleKeeper

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The only problem, EagleKeeper, is that Romney jumped on the issue before anyone knew that there had been any "breakdown". His behavior was shameful.
And what has been since.

Romney sensed a breakdown and exploited it for political gain.
It turns out he was right - there was a drastic breakdown in the administration that may have allowed the situation.
then there was the denials by the administration - again pointing out a situational awareness issue.
Now we find out that the Administration is claiming they knew nothing about the breakdown. - In essence blaming State for the foulup.
 
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