Why is sony so stupid? If the market is willing to pay $3000 for a console...

[Mellman]

I dunno, i'm all for scalpers making $$ off it, i would do it if i had no life and could afford to sit in front of a store for a week+...

But seriously, why wouldn't sony charge that much? they WILL sell out, they'll all sell on ebay for $2000+ most for more, so...why not sony getting that money, to put into more R&D/replacements etc...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Playstation-3-...01QQcategoryZ62054QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

For the record...I dont plan to buy a PS3 anytime soon, i'll be buying a 360 before i buy a PS3, and that wont be for ~6 months. Love consoles, just don't have enough of a need for a 360 right now, Forza2 will definitely be a plus.

 

[neovan]

because the ebayers will then be able to ebay them for $10K

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: neovan
because the ebayers will then be able to ebay them for $10K

Sad but true.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: neovan
because the ebayers will then be able to ebay them for $10K

quoted for the truff!!!

 

[mcvickj]

The market isn't willing to pay that kind of cash. Just a few choice idiots. If they held off and waited until they could meet the demand it would squash the scalpers.

 

[VTHodge]

The answer (if you were looking for one) is because of bad publicity. A companies reputation is worth more than the extra profit that they would make by selling the first ~500 units at those prices.

 

[Thraxen]

Because that's NOT the market. That's the hardcore idiots or people with more money than sense. The vast majority of gamers will buy them system off store shelves when stock becomes available. If Sony tried to charge $2500 USD for the system their target audience would be outraged and everyone would write the system off.

 

[Mellman]

Originally posted by: VTHodge
The answer (if you were looking for one) is because of bad publicity. A companies reputation is worth more than the extra profit that they would make by selling the first ~500 units at those prices.

500 units? eah i think thats a bit low of an estimate... right now there are ~1400 ps3's on ebay, not to mention the ~2000+ that already ended for $2000+

Originally posted by: mcvickj
The market isn't willing to pay that kind of cash. Just a few choice idiots.

think so? I dunno... I find that hard to imagine, the 360 had far more units, and they still sold for just as much...

 

[j00fek]

consoles = worthless

 

[BobDaMenkey]

Originally posted by: VTHodge
The answer (if you were looking for one) is because of bad publicity. A companies reputation is worth more than the extra profit that they would make by selling the first ~500 units at those prices.

Yep.

The general public is not willing to pay that kind of price for the console. Only some people.

They could indeed release them at stupid high prices for the months before christmas, and then lower them afterwards, however this would create a really bad public image, and only worsen the gouging that is going on with reselling. So it's better for the company as a whole to release it at a lower price poit and keep it's reputation and whatnot.

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: neovan
because the ebayers will then be able to ebay them for $10K

Wrong.

Originally posted by: VTHodge
The answer (if you were looking for one) is because of bad publicity. A companies reputation is worth more than the extra profit that they would make by selling the first ~500 units at those prices.

right. And I think VTHodge meant ~500K. Companies think the allowing the notion that the PS3 is expensive to enter into the consumer's minds will ultimately bite them in the ass.

I'm not so sure that this line of thinking is true since the amount of money being left on the table is pretty darn large (500K * extra $500 = $250M) and consumers also tend to associate high priced items with prestige.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: j00fek
j00fek = worthless

fixed

 

[crystal]

Originally posted by: Mellman

Originally posted by: VTHodge
The answer (if you were looking for one) is because of bad publicity. A companies reputation is worth more than the extra profit that they would make by selling the first ~500 units at those prices.

500 units? eah i think thats a bit low of an estimate... right now there are ~1400 ps3's on ebay, not to mention the ~2000+ that already ended for $2000+

Originally posted by: mcvickj
The market isn't willing to pay that kind of cash. Just a few choice idiots.

think so? I dunno... I find that hard to imagine, the 360 had far more units, and they still sold for just as much...

Even if Sony sold that much, i.e. 2000 unit, hell, even 20,000 or 200,000 unit, for that price, they still lost out if they sell it for a much lower price and get their roi from somewhere else.

 

[randay]

look on ebay, they arent going for nearly that much anymore. probably were all fake bids anyway.

 

[MisterJackson]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: j00fek
j00fek = worthless

fixed

Thraxen = truth speaker

 

[her209]

Sony wants people to buy their console so they can rip them off on the games...

 

[slsmnaz]

How do you know it's not Sony selling them on ebay?

 

[jpeyton]

YAPS3T?

This is getting ridiculous.

I guess these weren't enough:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1959350&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1959313&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1959334&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1959270&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1957198&enterthread=y

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1958981&enterthread=y

And that's only on the first page for me.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Thraxen

Originally posted by: j00fek
j00fek = worthless

fixed

:thumbsup:

 

[PlatinumGold]

to the OP.

let's get some basic economics of the situation straight first.

ebayers can only sell the first 50k to 60k units at that outrageous price because EVERYONE knows that the price will come down and sony will eventually sell 2 million+ units which guarantess continued support from the gaming industry. do you HONESTLY believe ANY company would create games for a PS3 that retailed at $2000+???


sheesh, talk about short sighted and ignorant.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
do you HONESTLY believe ANY company would create games for a PS3 that retailed at $2000+???

Doh, beat me to it. If Sony announced a $2000 PS3, no one would ever make games for it. If no one made games, no one would buy it. The PS3 would end a short-lived life without a soul buying it.

Or Sony can sell it at a price that is somewhat reasonable.

 

[waggy]

hahah iyeah. if Sony tried to have the PS3 at $2500 sure they would sell a few but the system would be a rousanding failure.

hell even at $600 its pushing what many are going to pay.


oh man.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

I say they should sell it at some wildly inflated price for the first 48 hours or whatever, and then bump it down to a normal price. Obviously, people are paying well over MSRP for these things at first... I'd rather Sony grab that extra money than ebay flippers. At least sony might re-invest some of it.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
I say they should sell it at some wildly inflated price for the first 48 hours or whatever, and then bump it down to a normal price. Obviously, people are paying well over MSRP for these things at first... I'd rather Sony grab that extra money than ebay flippers. At least sony might re-invest some of it.

what do you think Ebay flippers do with that money? bury it in the ground?

they spend it and they spread it around.

i'd rather a couple of hundred (mb even couple of thousand) individual americans flip them and spend the money locally than it go to Sony.

 

[Dacalo]

*chuckles at the thread title*

You think Sony is stupid? Oh the irony.