Why is sex considered taboo but violence ok ?

[Modelworks]

I wasn't really referring about showing porn videos to 12 year olds.
I was thinking more along the lines of people that will turn the channel or ask the child to leave the room when a sex scene happens in a movie, but are ok with scenes of people shooting and killing each other.


I mean some people are ok with there family watching people get murdered but if someone shows a woman topless or someones naked butt, then its time to shield the children.

Some people are even more extreme.
My dad has prostate problems and we were discussing it when one of my neices came in the room, shes 13, when she wanted to know what a prostate was , my dad changes the subject .

I guess the usa still has a lot of religion influencing things compared to other countries.
Something like that video below would never make it on the shelves in the usa.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZW_k05mntE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76B4hG_wLJs&NR=1

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How did I know this would be religions fault? :roll: And on a board comprised almost entirely of 16-40 year old men who spend copious amounts of time online, the concensus is that viewing porn is a good thing. Go figure.

Two words: abstinence education


....that probably qualifies as an oxymoron though

I'm not sure what you're inferring. That exposing our children to pornography will cut down on teen pregnancy and STD spreading?

That just teaching them "wait until you are married" is even worse then teaching them nothing at all.

Agreed 100%. I'd even call it irresponsible.

That doesn't mean abstinence doesn't work and isn't realistic. The key is that abstinence can't be viewed as a method of birth control.............it's a lifestyle, and you need to promote it and support it as such.

But this thread is about exposure to pornography. And I think you're going to have to be extremely naiive or malicious to even suggest that pornography doesn't have a cumulative effect on your mind. The next time you fire up a video, as yourself WHY you are. WHAT is it you're getting from watching that and HOW. You, what, like watching another guy do a girl? Why? Keep asking that and see if you don't end up in a pretty scary damn place inside.

Pornography has been with us for a LONG time and will be for the foreseeable future. Arguably it is better to teach kids about sex in an educational environment than let them learn it from pornography alone.

 

[3NF]

If people spent more time making love with each other then there would be a lot less violence in the world. Let's get naked and screw.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How did I know this would be religions fault? :roll: And on a board comprised almost entirely of 16-40 year old men who spend copious amounts of time online, the concensus is that viewing porn is a good thing. Go figure.

I don't really spend copious amounts of time online and i don't believe the consensus is that porn is either good or bad per se.

But the reason why Sex is considered more taboo in YOUR society than violence (it's the opposite in the UK) has to do with evangelical Christianity and nothing else.

Naked titties or a man shot, which would you rather your young kids would see on the TV, there you have your answer.

And it's fucking strange too, since titties are good and violence is bad.

That is pretty much it IMO. We have never quite gotten past our puritanical views on sex in some areas.

 

[Pepsei]

the movie "love, caution" should be out soon... you get both sex and violence...

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Its just a leftover attitude from humanities past when it was beneficial to promote violence and suppress sex. Think about ancient groups that had limited technology and no form of birth control.

It would have been beneficial to promote violence because men needed to be tough back then. They had to be capable hunters and warriors in a time when war with neighboring tribes/groups was common and food scarce.

It would have been beneficial to suppress and limit sex only to married couples to ensure no unwanted pregnancies occurred. Sex was much more dangerous before modern medicine. Only very recently has sex become relatively safe, so that we can now do it with nearly 100% certainty that it won't result in a baby or disease after taking precautions. Cultural norms that developed over many generations aren't just going to suddenly go away.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: effowe
You are correct, it has everything to do with religion. Our country was founded by puritans, and is run by right wing christian conservatives who think a boob is worse than excessive violence.

Wrong... those same fundies are also opposed to the violence. There's a lot more to it than just blaming the guy with the bible.

 

[dennilfloss]

Watch Canadian TV: less violence, more nudity. :thumbsup:

 

[Rocks7ar]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: jjones
The whole concept of sex being bad is so completely f**ked up I don't even know where to begin.

Rape, teenage pregnancy, and STD's aren't exactly "bonuses" in the Sex column.

It's not "bad" per se, but the cause/effect are much harder for children and even teenagers to comprehend the consequences.

Rape is really not as bad as people make it out to be... (just kidding)

Teen pregnancy is usually the result of two people having sex who were not yet mature enough to handle it or fully understand the reprocussions. Some teenagers who have impregnated a girl have used the excuse "it just happened too fast and I didn't think to put a condom on" or something to that affect. As a guy I can tell you that at no time in my life (especially as a teen) did I not know in the back of my mind that I needed a condom. Teenagers don't just have sex at random times, one or both of them always know that there is a chance they may be having sex before they enter a situation. Now, lets take a step forward to when the girl does get pregnant. Both her and the "father's" ignorance of the wide range of help they can get for free is the real problem. Sexual education should be mandatory in schools no matter what race or religion you are. Teens are going to have sex and the best thing we can do is help them do it safely. Handing out condoms or letting them know where to get a morning after pill will go a lot further than telling them to be abstinent.

The Carter Administration, Red Cross and the Christians deserve every last bit of blame for the current AIDS epidemic in America. When AIDS first appeared in San Francisco during the Carter Administration it was dismissed a "gay disease" because at the time only homosexuals contracted it for obvious reasons. Some of these homosexuals were blood donors and occasionally or regularly donated blood to the Red Cross who knew that the blood was infected and yet did nothing about it because the Carter Administration told them to keep it to themselves. The Christians are to blame because it was their anti-homosexual and ridiculous moral standards that Carter believed in and because of that he did not treat a sexually transmitted disease as a threat especially because only homosexuals who offended God anyway were getting it.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: jjones
The whole concept of sex being bad is so completely f**ked up I don't even know where to begin.

Rape, teenage pregnancy, and STD's aren't exactly "bonuses" in the Sex column.

It's not "bad" per se, but the cause/effect are much harder for children and even teenagers to comprehend the consequences.

Yes, but if society, and individuals, weren't so hung up on the issues of sex, maybe, just maybe, we might be able to better address the problems of teen pregnancy and STDs. As far as rape is concerned, there's a lot more issues involved than just sex and I'm not nearly qualified to discuss them. Suffice it to say, I think sex is probably not the most relevent factor when considering the motivations of a rapist.

 

[Rocks7ar]

Rape is a power game, not a sex game.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

The religion thing is kinda bogus too....brazil is the largest catholic nation in the world and they are a very sexual culture.

 

[Skacer]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Agreed 100%. I'd even call it irresponsible.

That doesn't mean abstinence doesn't work and isn't realistic. The key is that abstinence can't be viewed as a method of birth control.............it's a lifestyle, and you need to promote it and support it as such.

But this thread is about exposure to pornography. And I think you're going to have to be extremely naiive or malicious to even suggest that pornography doesn't have a cumulative effect on your mind. The next time you fire up a video, as yourself WHY you are. WHAT is it you're getting from watching that and HOW. You, what, like watching another guy do a girl? Why? Keep asking that and see if you don't end up in a pretty scary damn place inside.

Uhhh, what kind of dark place did you end up at?

 

[FoBoT]

in the Protestant tradition, war (hence violence) is ok , where any sex outside of marriage is a sin

 

[HammerCurl]

Originally posted by: Skacer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Agreed 100%. I'd even call it irresponsible.

That doesn't mean abstinence doesn't work and isn't realistic. The key is that abstinence can't be viewed as a method of birth control.............it's a lifestyle, and you need to promote it and support it as such.

But this thread is about exposure to pornography. And I think you're going to have to be extremely naiive or malicious to even suggest that pornography doesn't have a cumulative effect on your mind. The next time you fire up a video, as yourself WHY you are. WHAT is it you're getting from watching that and HOW. You, what, like watching another guy do a girl? Why? Keep asking that and see if you don't end up in a pretty scary damn place inside.

Uhhh, what kind of dark place did you end up at?

AssEating.net/blindmidgetdonkeyS+M

 

[Rocks7ar]

Extramarital Sex FTW!

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
How did I know this would be religions fault? :roll: And on a board comprised almost entirely of 16-40 year old men who spend copious amounts of time online, the concensus is that viewing porn is a good thing. Go figure.

I don't really spend copious amounts of time online and i don't believe the consensus is that porn is either good or bad per se.

But the reason why Sex is considered more taboo in YOUR society than violence (it's the opposite in the UK) has to do with evangelical Christianity and nothing else.

Naked titties or a man shot, which would you rather your young kids would see on the TV, there you have your answer.

And it's fucking strange too, since titties are good and violence is bad.

Evangelical Christianity is just as against murder as it is fornication.

And how long have you lived in our society to be able to speak as to which is more taboo? After 10:00 PM you get soft porn on any cable channel and our kids are being fed a constant stream of sexual inuendo through things like MTV. There been a huge ordeal at a locla high school because the kids want to be able to freak dance and the school wants them to abstain from it while at a school dance.

I'm sorry but the answer isn't nearly as trite as you'd like to believe it is.

The fact is, first of all, that death is ocurring all around us constantly and is requisite for life. Things die so that other things live. It's not the same when people die, but we are conditioned form birth to put death into perspective. Also, fake violence is fake. You can watch a fight scene in a movie and shrug it off knowing that nobody actually died. A sex scene, for all you know, is real.....it's not like you can tell.

Sex sells. Isn't that what they say? Why do you think they say it? Why don't they say violence sells? Because sexual imagery has a physical effect on you. And, ya, most people into it end up addicted to it. Why don't you toss your stash away tomorrow and try living without it. How badly would you miss it?

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Skacer

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Agreed 100%. I'd even call it irresponsible.

That doesn't mean abstinence doesn't work and isn't realistic. The key is that abstinence can't be viewed as a method of birth control.............it's a lifestyle, and you need to promote it and support it as such.

But this thread is about exposure to pornography. And I think you're going to have to be extremely naiive or malicious to even suggest that pornography doesn't have a cumulative effect on your mind. The next time you fire up a video, as yourself WHY you are. WHAT is it you're getting from watching that and HOW. You, what, like watching another guy do a girl? Why? Keep asking that and see if you don't end up in a pretty scary damn place inside.

Uhhh, what kind of dark place did you end up at?

Start with the statement, "I like to watch porn." Then ask yourself "Why" three times. Post results here.