Why is Pokemon frowned upon here yet DBZ is "cool"?
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i guess cuz pokemon is more kiddy and really commercialized, whereas for dbz you gotta look harder to try to find it.
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DBz is probably still considered more 'undergrown' and has been out for a while so there's history behind it, making it more 'cool.' However, I've watched a couple of Pokemon episodes, and the characterization is amazing. Especially for Pikachu, so much can be inferred by using 'pika' or 'pikachu' as your entire vocabulary.
a fan of DBZ actually made a few music videos on his own. The dude has too much time on his hands, and has questionable taste in music, but the clips he has are pretty high quality. Note that these are large files.
The first one uses a cheezeball song- but some good clips. Music Video 1
This one has a old school classic song =) Video 2
You have to right click and Save Target As- left clicking won't work
The first one uses a cheezeball song- but some good clips. Music Video 1
This one has a old school classic song =) Video 2
You have to right click and Save Target As- left clicking won't work
I think DBZ is less frowned upon because there are people actually fighting people using martial arts and some of the uncut episodes are quite bloody and there is some nudity 
Pokemon is aimed more at kids and thus looked down upon
ps. Pikachu rules............ pika pika
Cheers,
Aquaman
Pokemon is aimed more at kids and thus looked down upon
ps. Pikachu rules............ pika pika
Cheers,
Aquaman
"I choose you, pikachu! let's have interspecies sex!"
How can anyone hate a show with lines like this?!?!?
How can anyone hate a show with lines like this?!?!?
REAL anime ownz j00 all!!!
kenshin for life!
initial D till i die baby!
evangelion pryde!
serial experiments lain is godlike!
kenshin for life!
initial D till i die baby!
evangelion pryde!
serial experiments lain is godlike!
I personally like pokemon, I don't see anything wrong with it. I think its looked down upon because no one will admit they like pokemon in public, even though they do.
I'm going to overanalyze this for a minute: (Gomen!)
You ask Why is Pokemon frowned upon here yet DBZ is "cool"?
Some differences that I see apply to general Anandtech readers -
Pokemon is aimed at a younger audience (pre- to mid- teen), and the storylines
tend to be simplified to explain the world in ways that the main characters
(Ash and Misty) can understand.
DBZ is aimed at teen to young adult viewers, and more time in the storys are
spent on character development and building suspense for the big battles than
on trying to explain concepts that most of the viewers are already expected to
understand. (One of the reasons it is also referred to as Drag-on Ball Z)
Pokemon characters are rarely hurt seriously, and those that do get hurt are
back to normal by the next episode. Team Rocket gets blasted so much you would
think they are the main characters of the show.
DBZ characters can get hurt (phsysically and emotionally), maimed, and even killed.
The main Villians and Hero's get brought back one way or another to move the
plot along, but a lot of people die and never come back. This theme
makes a better impression on viewers who can learn to appreciate not always
having a happy ending.
Pokemon was designed as much to sell cards, plush dolls, and other merchandise as
it was to tell a story, hence a lot of the elements of the show are recent
creations of the writers imagination.
DragonBall was an adaptation of the old legend of the Stone Monkey, and carries
a lot of elements of eastern mythology and "classic" stories as the underlying
framework of the show. DBZ moved away from some of that, but still relies on
much of the formula established by the first series to maintain some of the
early character relationships.
Pokemon is on "Kid's WB", while DBZ is the flagship of Toonami, an effort by the
cartoon network to show animation (primarly anime) that has more of an appeal
to an adult audience.
Similarities:
Both series deal with characters on a quest to improve themselves, and in
both they face fantastic situations in trying to accomplish simple tasks.
Both use super-psuedo-science to allow the characters to get thru the
episodes without having to bother with those pesky laws of physics.
Both involve characters that viewer have mixed feelings about: Vegita
is often considered more cool because he's such and arrogant badass; and
I sometimes wish Ash would buy a few more clues.
You ask Why is Pokemon frowned upon here yet DBZ is "cool"?
Some differences that I see apply to general Anandtech readers -
Pokemon is aimed at a younger audience (pre- to mid- teen), and the storylines
tend to be simplified to explain the world in ways that the main characters
(Ash and Misty) can understand.
DBZ is aimed at teen to young adult viewers, and more time in the storys are
spent on character development and building suspense for the big battles than
on trying to explain concepts that most of the viewers are already expected to
understand. (One of the reasons it is also referred to as Drag-on Ball Z)
Pokemon characters are rarely hurt seriously, and those that do get hurt are
back to normal by the next episode. Team Rocket gets blasted so much you would
think they are the main characters of the show.
DBZ characters can get hurt (phsysically and emotionally), maimed, and even killed.
The main Villians and Hero's get brought back one way or another to move the
plot along, but a lot of people die and never come back. This theme
makes a better impression on viewers who can learn to appreciate not always
having a happy ending.
Pokemon was designed as much to sell cards, plush dolls, and other merchandise as
it was to tell a story, hence a lot of the elements of the show are recent
creations of the writers imagination.
DragonBall was an adaptation of the old legend of the Stone Monkey, and carries
a lot of elements of eastern mythology and "classic" stories as the underlying
framework of the show. DBZ moved away from some of that, but still relies on
much of the formula established by the first series to maintain some of the
early character relationships.
Pokemon is on "Kid's WB", while DBZ is the flagship of Toonami, an effort by the
cartoon network to show animation (primarly anime) that has more of an appeal
to an adult audience.
Similarities:
Both series deal with characters on a quest to improve themselves, and in
both they face fantastic situations in trying to accomplish simple tasks.
Both use super-psuedo-science to allow the characters to get thru the
episodes without having to bother with those pesky laws of physics.
Both involve characters that viewer have mixed feelings about: Vegita
is often considered more cool because he's such and arrogant badass; and
I sometimes wish Ash would buy a few more clues.
DBZ IS DA BOMB!!!
pokemon is too kid like, and get's old (woohoo. let's go look for more pokemon then duke it out with other pokemon....with crappy fighting also)
DBZ has VERY good anime in it, and the fighting is da sheist!! even the story line is good and bring in japanese life
have you ever watched DBZ? if you REALLY watched it (meaning most of DBZ), you would know
pokemon is too kid like, and get's old (woohoo. let's go look for more pokemon then duke it out with other pokemon....with crappy fighting also)
DBZ has VERY good anime in it, and the fighting is da sheist!! even the story line is good and bring in japanese life
have you ever watched DBZ? if you REALLY watched it (meaning most of DBZ), you would know
Delusion2001,
You sound like someone who hasn't watched either one. There is no need to
bash one show just because you like another.
if you REALLY watched it, you would know can apply to most anime.
And anime is not something a show HAS, it is something a show, movie, music video,
and even TV commercial, IS. It's the creation of a type of animated story, heavily
influenced by the art and creative techniques of the Japanese entertainment industry.
"Sailor Moon" does a better job of showing Japanese life than DragonballZ. This
isn't a bash, just that IMO DBZ doesn't really show much in the background that
can be applied to being in Japan. Most of the big battles take place as far
from populated areas as possible (for good reason).
If you really want to be blown away by good storytelling, a solid base in modern
Japanese culture, and great martial arts fighting, you should wait until Toonami
starts showing Yu Yu Hakusho later this year or early next year.
You sound like someone who hasn't watched either one. There is no need to
bash one show just because you like another.
if you REALLY watched it, you would know can apply to most anime.
And anime is not something a show HAS, it is something a show, movie, music video,
and even TV commercial, IS. It's the creation of a type of animated story, heavily
influenced by the art and creative techniques of the Japanese entertainment industry.
"Sailor Moon" does a better job of showing Japanese life than DragonballZ. This
isn't a bash, just that IMO DBZ doesn't really show much in the background that
can be applied to being in Japan. Most of the big battles take place as far
from populated areas as possible (for good reason).
If you really want to be blown away by good storytelling, a solid base in modern
Japanese culture, and great martial arts fighting, you should wait until Toonami
starts showing Yu Yu Hakusho later this year or early next year.
GoldenBear, How can you compare DBZ to Poke-me-Mon (). They are targeted at 2 different audiences.
Sailor Moon" does a better job of showing Japanese life than DragonballZ.
I disagree. Anime's like Rurouni Kenshin shows the real Japanese life then sailor moon. Well, I guess anyone can argue about that. But not all Anime's are created equal (there are different genres of Anime). I hate those cartoons like Sailor moon generally aimed at school girls.
kumanchu named some real nice Animes.
DBZ is one of my fav. though. I just wish all you DBZ/Anime bashers saw the real Japanese episodes with out the fu*ked up English dubbing.
). They are targeted at 2 different audiences.Sailor Moon" does a better job of showing Japanese life than DragonballZ.
I disagree. Anime's like Rurouni Kenshin shows the real Japanese life then sailor moon. Well, I guess anyone can argue about that. But not all Anime's are created equal (there are different genres of Anime). I hate those cartoons like Sailor moon generally aimed at school girls.
kumanchu named some real nice Animes.
DBZ is one of my fav. though. I just wish all you DBZ/Anime bashers saw the real Japanese episodes with out the fu*ked up English dubbing.
Been reading Dragon Ball comic since I was 6-7th grade (that's 15 years ago), and still reading it after I immigrate to US, been watching every changes in the storyline in DB (can't accept the name DBZ). For me, it's because I was grown up with it. and Pokemon really is a over hyped commerical product instead of a comic/anime IMHO. and since DB story has a long history, it has more depth in Pokemon.
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