Why is our world so dependent upon superficiality?
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Because people are animals. Look at how many creatures in nature get their mates by the way they look.
I didn't say being deep is any better, I was just wondering what you guys thought. I agree with yakko, its mostly instinct to choose the best looking mate. But haven't we overcome instinct in so many other ways in our modern society. Why can't people as a whole rid themselves of the basic need to find an sexually attractive mate. Now I'm not ugly, don't think I'm a bitter ugly person (this ain't a paulson post 
) but I wonder sometimes....
PS- sorry P
) but I wonder sometimes....PS- sorry P
because it's hard wired. now if you want to engineer a new homo sapien that doesn't have these prejudices be my guest. while you're at it see if you can make it so that this new human is able to synthesize all necessary amino acids and fatty acids. oh yeah, make him have chlorophyll so he doesn't need to waste time eating too.
I agree with jhu. The whole idea about these impulses being hard wired makes sense. Ultimatly humans/animals procreate for one reason, continuation of the species (Not because there's nothing good on TV).
When looking for an ideal 'partner', the male subconciously looks for a strong and healthy female who can endure the rigors of childbirth. Having large breasts only adds to the ability to provide nourishment for the young. (j/k!)
The female looks for a strong and healthy male who can give her offspring 'strong and healthy' genes.
In many societies, attractiveness and 'strong/healthy' go hand and hand.
That's all I have to say about that.
When looking for an ideal 'partner', the male subconciously looks for a strong and healthy female who can endure the rigors of childbirth. Having large breasts only adds to the ability to provide nourishment for the young. (j/k!)
The female looks for a strong and healthy male who can give her offspring 'strong and healthy' genes.
In many societies, attractiveness and 'strong/healthy' go hand and hand.
That's all I have to say about that.
I remember reading about some scientific literature about what IBhacknU theory about larger breasts correlating to ability to bear more children.
Interesting.
Interesting.
It's just the way that it is, Evan. It's not likely to change any time soon, either.
I deeply resented the fact that the kids who were mean to me when I was a little cross-eyed porker suddenly wanted to be my friend (or get in my pants) when I blossomed. I never really got over it, and I will spend the rest of my life having something to say about it.
If I ever write a novel, this will be one of the underlying themes. It seems to touch everyone, one way or another.
But hey, why are you worried about it? If I was your age, I'd be your gf, or at least trying to be (by wowing you with my amazing intellect, of course.).
I deeply resented the fact that the kids who were mean to me when I was a little cross-eyed porker suddenly wanted to be my friend (or get in my pants) when I blossomed. I never really got over it, and I will spend the rest of my life having something to say about it.
If I ever write a novel, this will be one of the underlying themes. It seems to touch everyone, one way or another.
But hey, why are you worried about it? If I was your age, I'd be your gf, or at least trying to be (by wowing you with my amazing intellect, of course.).
You're wrong xero. Give it time.
The looks factor hurts far more women than men. Get yourself a good education, good career, and you can have a girlfriend without too much problem. Women are much more limited... we are judged for our looks and our youth, and then we age.
Of course, men have the pressure of being valued for their earning ability, but I'd rather be judged by my personality and my heart then my looks anyday! It would be nice if that was the case, for both sexes.
The looks factor hurts far more women than men. Get yourself a good education, good career, and you can have a girlfriend without too much problem. Women are much more limited... we are judged for our looks and our youth, and then we age.
Of course, men have the pressure of being valued for their earning ability, but I'd rather be judged by my personality and my heart then my looks anyday! It would be nice if that was the case, for both sexes.
<...I'd rather be judged by my personality and my heart then my looks...>
Is it not symptomatic that the unquestionably successful Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler, et al., do not concentrate on their pin-up's personality and heart?
I'm sure guys would rather not be judged by their earning potential and their ability to suspend male pride.
Is it not symptomatic that the unquestionably successful Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler, et al., do not concentrate on their pin-up's personality and heart?
I'm sure guys would rather not be judged by their earning potential and their ability to suspend male pride.
First of all there is nothing wrong with being physically attracted to someone of the opposite sex. God made man with a desire for woman (and vice versa) physically, mentally, socially, etc. He is not the full image of God without her. Now there is a right balance for this and there is an improper balance for this.
Our society (in general) happens to place a higher importance on physical aspects then it needs to. So since many men's primary desire is for sex they of course put to high an influence on the physical aspect. Thus woman respond by trying to fulfill this so that men will be attracted to them and they can have their physical, emotional, etc needs met.
In another society it might be improperly leaning towards financial security, social status, intellect, etc.
So basically since the fall of man in the Garden people have a sinful nature that they battle (well, many don't battle it but some do) which makes them want to throw everything out of balance. Thus the horrible state of our society.
Our society (in general) happens to place a higher importance on physical aspects then it needs to. So since many men's primary desire is for sex they of course put to high an influence on the physical aspect. Thus woman respond by trying to fulfill this so that men will be attracted to them and they can have their physical, emotional, etc needs met.
In another society it might be improperly leaning towards financial security, social status, intellect, etc.
So basically since the fall of man in the Garden people have a sinful nature that they battle (well, many don't battle it but some do) which makes them want to throw everything out of balance. Thus the horrible state of our society.
My personal feelings:
I will admit it is only natural to be drawn by physical attraction and I am only human.
However, I have learned that what is in the heart and what is inside is so much more important than physical looks. In any possible future relationships that I may have, I will look past physical beauty and to find a woman's inner beauty which is the real attracter.
I would rather spend my time with an intelligent, witty and kind hearted woman, regardless of her looks, than a physically beautiful woman that has nothing more to offer than her physical beauty. Been there, done that.
I've learned the hardway. Next time will be different. With age comes wisdom.
I will admit it is only natural to be drawn by physical attraction and I am only human.
However, I have learned that what is in the heart and what is inside is so much more important than physical looks. In any possible future relationships that I may have, I will look past physical beauty and to find a woman's inner beauty which is the real attracter.
I would rather spend my time with an intelligent, witty and kind hearted woman, regardless of her looks, than a physically beautiful woman that has nothing more to offer than her physical beauty. Been there, done that.
I've learned the hardway. Next time will be different. With age comes wisdom.
BoberFett
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It's a part of human nature that can't be ignored. You simply won't find yourself able to spend your life with someone that you find unattractive. Quite frankly I don't find anything wrong with that, because everybody is attractive to somebody; beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I don't particularly find many supermodels all that attractive, but that's me. And women that I meet and find attractive I don't neccesarily see as beautiful. It's women that possess both the outer and inner beauty that I would apply the label 'beautiful'.
I don't particularly find many supermodels all that attractive, but that's me. And women that I meet and find attractive I don't neccesarily see as beautiful. It's women that possess both the outer and inner beauty that I would apply the label 'beautiful'.
I would rather spend my time with an intelligent, witty, kind hearted, physically beautiful woman.
Why settle for less?
Why settle for less?
unxpurg8d
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Isla, just to give you hope, my granny turns 81 soon, and her idea of fun is to run the bars chasing younger men - the interesting part being she actually CATCHES one once in awhile. (Doesn't keep 'em long though. She says not worth it to cook 'em breakfast. Sigh.) To top it off, her identical twin sister's "boy"friend is 65. See? Life after wrinkles!!!!!!
To answer the original queston, I think instincts, predjudices, and the media have alot to do with the way people feel about superficiality. Instincts and predjudices are bred and taught, while the media pushes their own agenda down everyone's throats.
On a side note, I remember when I was in grade school a few years back (quite a few). There was this black girl, the only black girl in our school. She had polio, and she wasn't very pretty, but she was a really nice person Well, nobody really wanted to associate with her because of her differences, but I sat with her at lunch almost every day because she was a really nice person.
I hope I've lived my life, for the most part, with reality as my guide..... -kd5-
On a side note, I remember when I was in grade school a few years back (quite a few
). There was this black girl, the only black girl in our school. She had polio, and she wasn't very pretty, but she was a really nice person Well, nobody really wanted to associate with her because of her differences, but I sat with her at lunch almost every day because she was a really nice person. I hope I've lived my life, for the most part, with reality as my guide..... -kd5-
Superficiality is one of the curses of youth. When you don't have the knowledge and experience to see deeper than what the person is showing you, you have no other choice but to go by what you see on the surface. This not only applies in relationships, but also in business and other aspects of life. Notice it (usualy) is easier to pull the wool over a younger person's eyes than a person whos been there before and seen it before. Sucess in life and in a mate is something that goes well beyond physical aspects. How many "badboys" have you seen your female friends fall for that are their physical ideal? Then you come across her a few years later and find out this badboy is in jail for beating her and they are now divorced with her now having 4 kids and on wellfare? Superficiality is a trap induced by lack of experience and knowledge about reality.
MustangSVT
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first lets see the meaning of this word:
Main Entry: su·per·fi·cial
Pronunciation: "sü-p&r-'fi-sh&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin superficialis, from Latin superficies
Date: 15th century
1 a (1) : of or relating to a surface (2) : lying on, not penetrating below, or affecting only the surface <superficial wounds> b British, of a unit of measure : SQUARE <superficial foot>
2 a : concerned only with the obvious or apparent : SHALLOW b : lying on the surface : EXTERNAL c : presenting only an appearance without substance or significance
- su·per·fi·cial·ly /-'fi-sh(&-)lE/ adverb
why are ppl superficial? because the whole world is based on it. Animals use thier natural colors scents and stuff to find mates and live life. Only humans define them as beutiful or ugly. And everyday from day we are born we associate what we see with what things are. as we grow older we must make judgements on first things we see based upon our knowledge to put what we see in certain catagory as nice or bad. I dont understand your question, its like asking why do we breath to live?. some ppl say that beauty is inside and beauty is only skin deep, well i want you to visit him or her with nice big sh*t on your head and try to shake their hand. this question u are asking has no meaning at all.
Main Entry: su·per·fi·cial
Pronunciation: "sü-p&r-'fi-sh&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin superficialis, from Latin superficies
Date: 15th century
1 a (1) : of or relating to a surface (2) : lying on, not penetrating below, or affecting only the surface <superficial wounds> b British, of a unit of measure : SQUARE <superficial foot>
2 a : concerned only with the obvious or apparent : SHALLOW b : lying on the surface : EXTERNAL c : presenting only an appearance without substance or significance
- su·per·fi·cial·ly /-'fi-sh(&-)lE/ adverb
why are ppl superficial? because the whole world is based on it. Animals use thier natural colors scents and stuff to find mates and live life. Only humans define them as beutiful or ugly. And everyday from day we are born we associate what we see with what things are. as we grow older we must make judgements on first things we see based upon our knowledge to put what we see in certain catagory as nice or bad. I dont understand your question, its like asking why do we breath to live?. some ppl say that beauty is inside and beauty is only skin deep, well i want you to visit him or her with nice big sh*t on your head and try to shake their hand. this question u are asking has no meaning at all.
The thing that facinates me about beauty is that it is ordinary at root. The more faces you morf to an average, the more beautiful the face appears. The beautiful face is an average face.
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