Why is my 3Dmark05 so screwed up?

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Whenever I do my 3DMark05 the CPU tests always run at 1-2fps, killing my score. What gives? I'm running on a PD 805 running at 4.0GHz Prime stable. It was doing the same thing at 3.6GHz too, which is an easy overclock for the 805...
 
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kyparrish

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It doesn't kill your score. It runs like that on everybody's computer.

It's SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
 
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Golgatha

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Originally posted by: kyparrish
It doesn't kill your score. It runs like that on everybody's computer.

It's SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
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QFT. I was happy the first time I saw it break 2FPS.
 
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krotchy

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Think about it, a graphics card is designed specifically to render everything on your screen, and CPU is designed to run most things but definitely not graphics. This makes them have very little dedicated to doing the video rendering. So basically the CPU test has your computer doing not only graphics (which it doesnt do well), but also physics, math, AI and anything else they throw at it. Theres no way your kicking out more than 1-2 FPS, because it simply doesnt have the dedicated parts.

This pretty much shows you the extreme need for a graphics card IMO. Imagine what gaming would look like if rendering was still done on your processor. Doom 2 era awesome graphics.
 
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iamtrout

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Originally posted by: krotchy
Think about it, a graphics card is designed specifically to render everything on your screen, and CPU is designed to run most things but definitely not graphics. This makes them have very little dedicated to doing the video rendering. So basically the CPU test has your computer doing not only graphics (which it doesnt do well), but also physics, math, AI and anything else they throw at it. Theres no way your kicking out more than 1-2 FPS, because it simply doesnt have the dedicated parts.

This pretty much shows you the extreme need for a graphics card IMO. Imagine what gaming would look like if rendering was still done on your processor. Doom 2 era awesome graphics.
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???

3DMark04, 03, both had decent framerates during the CPU test... in fact this is the first 3DMark WITHOUT decent CPU framerates...
 
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Bull Dog

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The reason as to why it is so slow is becuase it does an incrediable amount of AI processing on the bots that are on the screen. The graphics portion is still rendered on the card. At least thats what I read on a more repituable site one time. Can't remember where. I could be totally wrong but meh.
 
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Munky

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Yeah, in 3dmark03 I'm sure I broke 100fps in at least one of the cpu tests. But that was obviously less graphically demanding. In 3dmark05 I think they try to emulate too much crap on the cpu, something that no real software renderer would do. In 3dmark06, the graphics are still done by the video card in the cpu tests, but it supposedly loads the cpu with heavy AI and physics math. Again, for the displayed output that it shows, there's no apparent reason why it runs like crap.
 
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xtknight

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Why don't they just calibrate it to run at 30 FPS on most people's PCs? What's the point of having to wait for the stupid thing to trudge along at a sloth's pace? That's what always irritates me about benchmarks.
 
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Hard to say why it's designed to test like that, but damn, it sure is a good stability test for the CPU when OCed :)
 
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otispunkmeyer

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Originally posted by: munky
Yeah, in 3dmark03 I'm sure I broke 100fps in at least one of the cpu tests. But that was obviously less graphically demanding. In 3dmark05 I think they try to emulate too much crap on the cpu, something that no real software renderer would do. In 3dmark06, the graphics are still done by the video card in the cpu tests, but it supposedly loads the cpu with heavy AI and physics math. Again, for the displayed output that it shows, there's no apparent reason why it runs like crap.
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in 06 its path finding AI isnt it? them little bots have to navigate the canyon, not on a preset path, but basically find where they cant go and work around it, i can see that, being done multiple times at the same time to be quite demanding, but maybes not so much that it makes my computer freeze.
 
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gramboh

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3Dmark05/06 CPU test is the only thing that crashes my computer from a stress test.

Prime95 (one on each logical CPU due to HT) chugs happily for 24 hours.

Pi calculating to 35 million decimals? No problem.

3D gaming in various games for 6+ hours? No problem.

Kind of annoying I can't run them but since my system doesn't crash from anything else, oh well.
 
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aniruddha23

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lol now i know that the dragon thing is a CPU test and not GPU.

I was like my 3Dmark05 score went up to 10k + after the 1900XT but wtf is the deal with the 3-3 FPS on that dragon demo.

Makes sense now.

I guess they tired to future proof too much where they must have thought that the next gen to CPU's would give at least 30 fps on those tests.

Any idea what fps you would get on an FX-60 or maybe conroe?
 
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Originally posted by: aniruddha23
lol now i know that the dragon thing is a CPU test and not GPU.

I was like my 3Dmark05 score went up to 10k + after the 1900XT but wtf is the deal with the 3-3 FPS on that dragon demo.

Makes sense now.

I guess they tired to future proof too much where they must have thought that the next gen to CPU's would give at least 30 fps on those tests.

Any idea what fps you would get on an FX-60 or maybe conroe?
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Probably about 4-5 fps.
 
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Navid

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To get a score from (free) 3DMark05, all you need is to let it run the first 3 tests. As soon as the first 3 tests are over, you can press Escape and get out of it and still get your score.
 
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TheRyuu

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3dmark05 DOES NOT count your CPU score (afaik) in the final score so don't even bother running it (waste of time).

3dmark06 DOES count your CPU score, but even on an Opty 175 @ 2.75ghz it runs SO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!111111 :( :p

Thats just the way it is, no biggy. It's just that at 640x480, it really stresses your CPU a lot. :)
 
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aniruddha23

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
3dmark05 DOES NOT count your CPU score (afaik) in the final score so don't even bother running it (waste of time).

3dmark06 DOES count your CPU score, but even on an Opty 175 @ 2.75ghz it runs SO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!111111 :( :p

Thats just the way it is, no biggy. It's just that at 640x480, it really stresses your CPU a lot. :)
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Us poor folks cant afford the upgrade to pro. Have to take all default tests :(
 
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TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: aniruddha23
Originally posted by: wizboy11
3dmark05 DOES NOT count your CPU score (afaik) in the final score so don't even bother running it (waste of time).

3dmark06 DOES count your CPU score, but even on an Opty 175 @ 2.75ghz it runs SO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!111111 :( :p

Thats just the way it is, no biggy. It's just that at 640x480, it really stresses your CPU a lot. :)
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Us poor folks cant afford the upgrade to pro. Have to take all default tests :(
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So, it still doesn't count the CPU score. So, I'm not sure why the thread was even started (perhaps the OP didn't know it? ;))
 
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