Why is my 3d mark 2001 se score only

[RockGuitarDude]

I have a 9800 Pro overclocked to 425core 400memory and it just gave me a score of 9820 while I looked up online scores of 13000 for the same card...

Is there a huge bottleneck in my system or something? I am running it on a agp 4x as my board doesn't have 8x... But should that make THAT much of a difference?

I have :
Athlon XP 2400+
512MB PC2100
Gigabyte GA-7VRXP

 

[Gusty987]

Did you turn of AA and AF?

 

[RockGuitarDude]

it said that in the report that it gives u that it's off...

 

[ManDooM]

If you have AA/AF on manually, it will still be on, even if the test says it's not. You'll have to turn it off manually.

 

[RockGuitarDude]

oh ok... 12551... not great tho... very dissappointing considering its oced...

 

[SickBeast]

Your CPU is the limiting factor here, along with your memory and I'm guessing the motherboard/chipset (I don't know what chipset your motherboard uses).

To get the highest score, you need to set all the sliders all the way to the left, and disable AA/AF.

Your CPU is the problem here though. I score 17,500 on my R9700PRO running on my 2500mhz 2500+ CPU.

 

[RockGuitarDude]

actually... that seems horrible... whats going here... the 9800 PRO non oced gives over 13000... what gives?

 

[RockGuitarDude]

is it related to agp 4x at all?

 

[SneakyStuff]

I've got a 2800+ and a 5700u oc'd like crazy. I only get close to 15,000. 3DMARK01 is CPU limited.

 

[MichaelZ]

agp4x and 8x makes 2FPS different, in 3dmark, 2FPS in each game is probably 500 marks or so difference. so to answer your question, no it's not related to AGP4x.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: RockGuitarDude
actually... that seems horrible... whats going here... the 9800 PRO non oced gives over 13000... what gives?

not are you only limited by your cpu, you're also limited by your fsb...

if you're running at stock and a fsb of 133 mhz then you're at a double penalty...

i had a 1700+ last year running at 2.4 ghz and a ti4200 and i was able to get a score over 15k.

 

[Zebo]

133. Video cards can help a bunch with games but you are crippling it with that 2-3 year old tech. Time for a new comp sorry to say.

 

[RockGuitarDude]

Would it be possible to get a mobo with a pci/agp lock and get my chip to run at 333FSB? I have a volcano 7+ and excellent case airflow. Oh an I would get faster ram as well obviously...

 

[Zebo]

It already has a lock at that speed. If your feeling dangerous you can set processor voltage to 1.8, FSB to 166, and run async memory to see if your chip is stable there. Then test you memory at 166 too and see if it holds.

 

[RockGuitarDude]

my ram is pc 2100 tho... is that at all realistic?

 

[RockGuitarDude]

also, while 3d mark seems to be a good gauge, am I going to see a difference in gaming potential from all of this? Everywhere I read says the graphics card doesn't rely on the processor that much, but then again what do i know lol

 

[Zebo]

Sure it is. I had crucial 2100 that ran 175mhz (ie about PC2900). Just give it 2.8-2.9 volts and see. Your timings may or may not need to be adjusted. I'd start with 3-3-3-6 2T just to check using memtest, then start tweaking downwards from there.

BUT you must FIRST check to see if your chip can handle 2500 Mhz which I seriously doubt on air but it's worth a try. More realistically your probably looking at 2300Mhz ie 150 Mhz bus.

 

[RockGuitarDude]

thanks for the input zebo... one more question (probably not lol) should i get ram sinks for that voltage? or am i safe without? also if my board is listed as only supporting 266 is that probably gonna limit it or just additional cooling?

 

[Zebo]

Your gigabit board is a KT333 chipset meaning it supports 166FSB. You should update to latest bios though.

should i get ram sinks for that voltage?
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No, Ram sinks are a joke. Purley for looks and marketing potential.

 

[RockGuitarDude]

ok, i have it at 145 fsb... windows load fine but things crash like crazy... not windows however... IE crashes, 3d mark crashes.... is this the ram (pc2100) at fault or the processor(15x multi)???

 

[SickBeast]

Run Memtest from DOS to find out if it's the memory. Don't run your system like that if it's unstable, you're likely to make a mess of things.

You should totally relax your timings if you're going to OC the memory like that. You should be able to hit 150FSB without an issue though.

At 145FSB, what is your CPU clocked at? How's your cooling? Temps?

 

[Zebo]

It's really hard to tell someone how to Overclock for over internet who has no experiance. There is so much varibles like voltages, bus speeds, isolation, mem settings and bois settings which lead to about a million permutations. Start here: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=207088

 

[dennisjai215]

get some better faster ram... my friend scored a few hundred points higher ... when he borrowed my corsair ram 512pc2700 to try it over his kingston 512pc2700 ram.. so top quality is better